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    Quote Originally Posted by X-man View Post
    Because you clearly only read the headline, let me help you out here. Here is a quote from the article involving Speaker Householder (a Republican, obviously):

    "But House Speaker Larry Householder said in a memo Tuesday, 'The date of Ohio’s primary election is set by state law and, as the secretary of state has acknowledged, the legal authority to change the date rests with the Ohio General Assembly — not the courts and not via executive fiat. So too does the process and manner in which the election is conducted.'"

    So maybe you think the Dispatch is also "fake news"?
    I read the whole article. As usual you Dems want to allegedly “help” people when they really don’t need it and by trying to surreptitiously being people’s overlords. Read what I wrote. The point is that the Courts & officials all agree that what has been done is proper. All Householder is saying is that the Legislature should set the date, Not LaRose. That may be a point of order. But....
    Legislators if you don’t like it, change the law. The suit was brought by the Ohio Democratic Party not the Ohio Republican Party. And why are the Dems so concerned about not giving people a date to vote in person? Why are they trying to limit voter access when for all these years all they cry about is "Voter Suppression"..then they want to limit the votes going forward to "absentee balloting only" until late April? Why? Talk about being disingenuous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    I read the whole article. As usual you Dems want to allegedly “help” people when they really don’t need it and by trying to surreptitiously being people’s overlords. Read what I wrote. The point is that the Courts & officials all agree that what has been done is proper. All Householder is saying is that the Legislature should set the date, Not LaRose. That may be a point of order. But....
    Legislators if you don’t like it, change the law. The suit was brought by the Ohio Democratic Party not the Ohio Republican Party. And why are the Dems so concerned about not giving people a date to vote in person? Why are they trying to limit voter access when for all these years all they cry about is "Voter Suppression"..then they want to limit the votes going forward to "absentee balloting only" until late April? Why? Talk about being disingenuous.
    Preach brother! Hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    I read the whole article. As usual you Dems want to allegedly “help” people when they really don’t need it and by trying to surreptitiously being people’s overlords. Read what I wrote. The point is that the Courts & officials all agree that what has been done is proper. All Householder is saying is that the Legislature should set the date, Not LaRose. That may be a point of order. But....
    Legislators if you don’t like it, change the law. The suit was brought by the Ohio Democratic Party not the Ohio Republican Party. And why are the Dems so concerned about not giving people a date to vote in person? Why are they trying to limit voter access when for all these years all they cry about is "Voter Suppression"..then they want to limit the votes going forward to "absentee balloting only" until late April? Why? Talk about being disingenuous.
    What in hell are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-man View Post
    What in hell are you talking about?
    "Let me help you out here". (LARGE EYE ROLL

    Answer why the Democrats filed suit to limit the voting to absentee only to the end of April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-man View Post
    MOR, if you are going to get into the politics of this decision, at least be honest about it. Members of both parties in the state legislature (including Republican leaders) are arguing that the Ohio state constitution requires any change to be done by the state legislature. I agree with you that DeWine is doing an incredible job , but be honest. Link: https://www.dispatch.com/news/202003...w-primary-date
    Is this article behind their paywall, or are they lifting that while this whole COVID-19 situation is going on?

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    Interesting piece from Tim Morrison. Guess Trump didn’t dismantle Obama’s epidemic task force after all. Does seem like Trump did reduce the NSC which had levels of redundancy. Not such a bad thing from a bloated fed government I would think.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ce_142683.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by noteggs View Post
    Interesting piece from Tim Morrison. Guess Trump didn’t dismantle Obama’s epidemic task force after all. Does seem like Trump did reduce the NSC which had levels of redundancy. Not such a bad thing from a bloated fed government I would think.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ce_142683.html
    More real “fake news” from the left. They merely combined 3 directories into 1 for efficiencies sake. Even Obama had thought that the department had become unwieldy.
    It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Washington Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.
    and..
    members of the Obama administration itself all agreed the NSC was too large and too operationally focused (a departure from its traditional role coordinating executive branch activity). As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017.
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    Seems like a lot of Americans are open to this monthly government payout and free testing for everyone. Turns out all it takes was the playing field to be even for everyone to be on board with Andrew Yang and Bernie Sanders policies. Go figure.
    Run the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemajParlor View Post
    Seems like a lot of Americans are open to this monthly government payout and free testing for everyone. Turns out all it takes was the playing field to be even for everyone to be on board with Andrew Yang and Bernie Sanders policies. Go figure.
    Cool, you buying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemajParlor View Post
    Seems like a lot of Americans are open to this monthly government payout and free testing for everyone. Turns out all it takes was the playing field to be even for everyone to be on board with Andrew Yang and Bernie Sanders policies. Go figure.
    I know this is the political thread but turning this pandemic into a political discussion/argument is probably the most tone deaf thing I have ever seen.

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