Politics Thread

[scoscox]

This seems like a non-point. It's actually difficult to argue against because it doesn't appear that you really have an argument. My opinion that Trump is wildly unfit for office was formed long before he killed some Iranian general. Every time the guy tweets he proves my point. The flaws of past leaders have little to do with it.

My point was a response to your absurd doctor analogy. thought it was pretty clear. you said the do nothing doctors don't take any risks, but don't kill anyone, which is incredibly obtuse considering how many people the bushes, obamas, etc. killed in the middle east. bush started a war, but he did it with decorum! he didn't have crazy tweets! that seems to be your stance and it's shockingly dumb.

and please spare me the "he's unhinged because of how he tweets!" message board psychology. complain about his policy or something. his twitter is so irrelevant. i could atleast respect a complaint about his health care policies or something/anything of substance.

[SemajParlor]

and please spare me the "he's unhinged because of how he tweets!" message board psychology. complain about his policy or something. his twitter is so irrelevant. i could atleast respect a complaint about his health care policies or something/anything of substance.

I too find it irrelevant when he threatens war and war crimes to the world, belittles and insults our allies, and threatens to put his political opponents in jail.

[scoscox]

I too find it irrelevant when he threatens war and war crimes to the world, belittles and insults our allies, and threatens to put his political opponents in jail.

and he's done exactly 0 of those things. meanwhile we actually have former presidents who did all of them, but didn't tweet.

[noteggs]

So replace VA with generic hospital of some kind. The point was not to talk about how the VA is run (poorly). The point is: if you end up in an emergency room do you want to be treated by a mediocre Doctor, or a great businessman? Politicians pretty much all suck. I think we can agree upon that. We probably differ in the assumption that Donald F'ing Trump is somehow a better alternative. Just because one thing is bad, doesn't mean that everything else is automatically better.

Yes. This is why I said, “I know your main point is not about the VA.”

At the beginning of my post (poorly worded on my part), I tried to leave qualifications for politics out of the discussion because you and I have not and probably will never agree on them. Just trying to spur on a different conversation in which I failed

Don’t think anyone can dispute your statement, “Just because one thing is bad, doesn't mean that everything else is automatically better.” However if something is bad, I normally prefer to try something different the next time (just like people can do with any upcoming election). Sometimes it works and sometimes it bites you in the ass. Beats living with constant bad.

[JTG]

Politics aside, Is anyone on this site with a 401k, or IRA worse off than they were before Trump was elected ?

[Lloyd Braun]

My point was a response to your absurd doctor analogy. thought it was pretty clear. you said the do nothing doctors don't take any risks, but don't kill anyone, which is incredibly obtuse considering how many people the bushes, obamas, etc. killed in the middle east. bush started a war, but he did it with decorum! he didn't have crazy tweets! that seems to be your stance and it's shockingly dumb.

and please spare me the "he's unhinged because of how he tweets!" message board psychology. complain about his policy or something. his twitter is so irrelevant. i could atleast respect a complaint about his health care policies or something/anything of substance.

There are countless of tweets to show how his Twitter is far from irrelevant. Trump would be the first to tell you how relevant it is. For example, here

He uses it as a mode of communication for pretty much anything. He fired Tillerson via twitter. He threatens other countries via Twitter. The list goes on.... frankly it’s just not “Presidential” nor professional. As someone who hires employees one of the first thing we do is check social media for anything. He is just unhinged at times and not a calming stable leader.

[scoscox]

frankly it’s just not “Presidential” nor professional. As someone who hires employees one of the first thing we do is check social media for anything. He is just unhinged at times and not a calming stable leader.

my point is... who cares? all of our previous presidents did way worse shit, but had a "calming manner". not sure why people seem to care about one more than the other. priorities seem really out of whack

[SemajParlor]

my point is... who cares?

If your point is that none of what he communicates via twitter has any significant impact because he has not or has not yet acted on everything he has ever written, then I will have to respectfully disagree on our understanding of the President's impact on the world.

[scoscox]

If your point is that none of what he communicates via twitter has any significant impact because he has not or has not yet acted on everything he has ever written, then I will have to respectfully disagree on our understanding of the President's impact on the world.

That’s not my point at all. The country has larger problems than whether or not trump occasionally engages in foreign policy on Twitter, but you’d never be able to tell by the way a lot of people act. That’s my point

[SemajParlor]

That’s not my point at all. The country has larger problems than whether or not trump occasionally engages in foreign policy on Twitter, but you’d never be able to tell by the way a lot of people act. That’s my point

I guess it's just semantics then. You wrote that his twitter is irrelevant and I responded with my opinion to that point.