Politics Thread

[GoMuskies]

Unfortunately, Greta may be edged out for Time Person of the Year by the Whistleblower. Tough break kid!

[scoscox]

Complaint filed that hen house was raided. Proper authority confirms hen house was raided. Farmer instead of forwarding to investigation decides to check with the Fox to see if he should forward complaint. Fox (spitting feathers) sez nothing to see here. Move on.

except now we know the complaint was sent to "investigation" immediately. and on top of that the fox wasn't spitting feathers and the farmer denies anyone raided the hen house. and you guys wonder why pelosi didn't actually formally file for impeachment

[scoscox]

https://external-preview.redd.it/apL...t=mp4&6d3e946d

[Masterofreality]

https://saraacarter.com/wp-content/u...US_unclass.pdf

so schiff was actually sent the complaint directly in august and the whistleblower had no direct knowledge of anything. it all sounds legit to me!

There’s that tricky word again. “Credible”. The Dems sure like to use that one up. Just like Blasey Ford was so “credible” (but apparently not accurate) when it came to going after Kavanaugh or even citing her supposed witnesses.

When will this clown show end?

[Caf]

schiff already lied about it. guy should be impeached

besides we they've already released the complaint, the transcript and the guy is gonna testify. not exactly a cover up. seems to be the opposite. trump is probably enjoying it

That's why I didn't say it's a cover up and did say 'time will tell'. We get it you're a fan.

[paulxu]

what do you think he did Paul? i don't understand what people find objectionable honestly

I admit a lot of it is confusing.
Ukraine official said Trump wouldn't talk to them unless they agreed to talk about getting dirt on Biden. If holding up aid for that is true, that seems problematic.
I'm fascinated by something mentioned today.What was released was a summary of the call, not a transcript.
Post Nixon there is no taping in the White House.
But...there are people listening with headphones transcribing close to word-for-word the conversations.
That info is generally stored on White House servers. But these transcripts were put by direction onto a "secret" server, with other stuff.
Will be interesting to see if that is pursued to get something closer to a "transcript" than a summary.

To answer you question more directly, I don't think the office should be used for personal gain (all the emolument violations) or to encourage or participate with foreign governments to effect our elections. But that's just me.

[scoscox]

That's why I didn't say it's a cover up and did say 'time will tell'. We get it you're a fan.

i understand what you meant

[scoscox]

I admit a lot of it is confusing.
Ukraine official said Trump wouldn't talk to them unless they agreed to talk about getting dirt on Biden. If holding up aid for that is true, that seems problematic.
I'm fascinated by something mentioned today.What was released was a summary of the call, not a transcript.
Post Nixon there is no taping in the White House.
But...there are people listening with headphones transcribing close to word-for-word the conversations.
That info is generally stored on White House servers. But these transcripts were put by direction onto a "secret" server, with other stuff.
Will be interesting to see if that is pursued to get something closer to a "transcript" than a summary.

To answer you question more directly, I don't think the office should be used for personal gain (all the emolument violations) or to encourage or participate with foreign governments to effect our elections. But that's just me.

interesting. glad to hear your perspective.

a few points: https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1177200203377631233
the ukrainian official isn't actually a ukrainian official

"To answer you question more directly, I don't think the office should be used for personal gain (all the emolument violations) or to encourage or participate with foreign governments to effect our elections"

i've yet to see any concrete examples of these emoluments violations . maybe you can link a few examples.

i also don't think trump asking ukraine about the obvious and admitted corruption of joe biden constitutes election meddling. it is literally the presidents job to enforce the law as the executive branch. it'd be a dereliction of his duty not to look into, again the admitted, on video, corruption of one of the most powerful people in our country.

[scoscox]

https://www.businessinsider.com/chin...ells-un-2019-9

meanwhile, in china

[bjf123]

When will this clown show end?

Sadly, never. I don’t think I’ve ever watched a Congressional “hearing” that was anything more than political grandstanding, regardless of party.


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