Politics Thread

Caf · 05-24-2019, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by scoscox

you posted an article about buttigieg ripping trump. how is that not about trump?

i used to think that about buttigieg, but his sort of attacks on christians and other stuff have kinda turned me off. he's really no different than any of the other democrats. maybe worse in some ways. and no he's not doing anything to shift perceptions of party patriotism

Yes, in the simplest reading it is strictly about Trump. It's May 2019 though, he's not jabbing Trump to take votes away from him in November 2020. He's doing it because he's running against Dems who can't go there on patriotism because they've never proven it themselves. This is what he has that Biden, Bernie, Kamala etc. do not have.

**boozehound** · 05-24-2019, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Caf

The only difference is he's served. And yeah agreed he's trying to stay in the spotlight - polls have not been friendly to him outside of whites from blue states.

There is no way the guy makes the ticket. I don't think even he believes he will get the nomination.

Having said that, attacking Trump about his military service is fair game, IMO though. To be fair: I'm pretty pro attacking Trump about almost anything. The guy is the absolute worst kind of piece of shit and we should all be ashamed of ourselves for electing him. That's not a political statement. It's a fact about who the guy is. He is a case study for what privilege in America can yield for people of marginal ability. You can trace virtually everything he has 'accomplished' back to being born rich, given a bunch of money by his Dad, and then convincing other rich people to keep giving him money. Then he somehow convinced people to vote for him without them even caring enough to demand that they see his tax returns, like every other candidate in modern history, to verify if any of the bullshit he is spouting about his business prowess is true.

Now that this moron is in power it is increasingly clear that he is an idiot, but half of us are apparently too stupid to care. Try to imagine George W Bush doing any of the crap this fool is doing. You can't. Because he was a decent person of (at least) average intelligence. without a glaring personality disorder. who treated the office of the presidency with respect.

No we get to go back and forth about Trump vs AOC, Bernie Sanders, or some crazy shit like that. We are totally F'd.

**GoMuskies** · 05-24-2019, 08:15 AM

All of the above generally not in dispute from my perspective....and I still prefer Trump to Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, those were the two choices.

**boozehound** · 05-24-2019, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

All of the above generally not in dispute from my perspective....and I still prefer Trump to Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, those were the two choices.

I disagree with you (although I REALLY don't like Hillary either - I just think there is almost no one worse than Trump excluding possibly the far left socialists and whatever Jill Stein was) but can respect this stance.

bjf123 · 05-24-2019, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

All of the above generally not in dispute from my perspective....and I still prefer Trump to Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, those were the two choices.

What he said.

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**muskienick** · 05-24-2019, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

All of the above generally not in dispute from my perspective....and I still prefer Trump to Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, those were the two choices.

What he said IN SPADES!!!

Xville · 05-24-2019, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by boozehound

I disagree with you (although I REALLY don't like Hillary either - I just think there is almost no one worse than Trump excluding possibly the far left socialists and whatever Jill Stein was) but can respect this stance.

As a human being, the guy is a disaster. As a President, there have been far worse. Economy is in good shape, hes trying to fix sins of the past etc.

Caf · 05-24-2019, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

All of the above generally not in dispute from my perspective....and I still prefer Trump to Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, those were the two choices.

Originally Posted by bjf123

What he said.

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Originally Posted by muskienick

What he said IN SPADES!!!

How about Biden?

**bobbiemcgee** · 05-24-2019, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by scoscox

i mean, plenty of people who've served have already hit trump on that. nobody cares.

He faked an injury to avoid Vietnam. Yeah, it matters to me. Guess none of your buddies have ever come home in boxes. Patriot, my ass.

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