Politics Thread

**boozehound** · 04-17-2019, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrett

This is an interest artice. While no sitting president in recent history has lost the nomination while challenged by their own party, none have gone on to win the general election.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sitt...lection-2019-3

Interesting article. I didn't realize Buchanan ran against Bush in 1992. Seem like a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy - i.e. you probably have to be a flawed President to be vulnerable to a serious primary challenge, which would then lead to you losing the general election.

I kind of think the only realistic way Trump wins reelection is if the left ends up with some batshit crazy candidate that is anathema to moderates.

**GoMuskies** · 04-17-2019, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by boozehound

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I kind of think the only realistic way Trump wins reelection is if the left ends up with some batshit crazy candidate that is anathema to moderates.

Is there anyone who has declared on the Democrat side that does not fit this description? I don't think Biden is in yet. Maybe Beto. Boot Edge Edge is trying to develop a non-crazy public persona, but I'm not so sure.

Xville · 04-17-2019, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by boozehound

Interesting article. I didn't realize Buchanan ran against Bush in 1992. Seem like a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy - i.e. you probably have to be a flawed President to be vulnerable to a serious primary challenge, which would then lead to you losing the general election.

I kind of think the only realistic way Trump wins reelection is if the left ends up with some batshit crazy candidate that is anathema to moderates.

I think trump wins reelection easily with what is on the democratic side...going far left is the dumbest thing that party can do to try to win the election. You have to get the moderate vote, the right and left are going to vote their side no matter what. If there was a moderate on the dem side, I'd vote for them...since there isnt, I'll regrettably vote for trump.

**boozehound** · 04-17-2019, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Is there anyone who has declared on the Democrat side that does not fit this description? I don't think Biden is in yet. Maybe Beto. Boot Edge Edge is trying to develop a non-crazy public persona, but I'm not so sure.

Not really. At least not as of yet.

**bobbiemcgee** · 04-17-2019, 11:23 AM

Hickenlooper is a moderate. Not a "medicare for all" advocate and loves the frackers. Unfortunately he stumbled out of the gate by saying he took his mom to see "Deep Throat". LOL
Wish we could get a Kasich/Hick ticket but America ain't ready for that. Too much "common sense" there.

Caf · 04-17-2019, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by boozehound

I kind of think the only realistic way Trump wins reelection is if the left ends up with some batshit crazy candidate that is anathema to moderates.

I don't think recent history supports this theory. A moderate candidate that can bring people across the aisle sounds nice, but someone that promises people health care, etc, etc, and etc is what drives people to polls.

**noteggs** · 04-17-2019, 07:58 PM

This is the main reason I hate politics. People voting for what government can give them (Trump and Democrats alike). What the heck happened to President Kennedy’s speech about government? Yes government has a critical purpose but...

Boy as a country we’ve drifted way too far.

**Masterofreality** · 04-18-2019, 03:18 PM

The Circus really is in town today with the Barr press conference and the release of the Mueller Report.
The Barr comments were pretty straightforward, he actually was not required to have a press conference, nor was even legally required to release the report, but did so in the interest of transparency. However, that still wasn't enough for the butthurt Dems and their media minions.
The oh, so left leaning media was on full display in the Presser. Barr owned them all, including that blonde bimbo from CBS News who tried to nail Barr, but he just wrecked her and shot her to the moon with her own "unprecedented" words. The Left and their supporting MSM that was so complicit in foisting this hoax upon America still just can't let it go and is absolutely intent on spinning Barr and his words back into this discredited hoax. They just can't admit they were wrong and just can't give it up.

Hey Dems. You had a 20 month investigation that covered everything and didn't find the answer you were shamelessly looking for---because it NEVER existed in the first place. You used a fake dossier to create this narrative and now you're looking so stupid, I guess you've just decided to burn any credibility you have left to the ground.

Shut the F up, stop with the Tomfoolery and get back to work passing laws.

**scoscox** · 04-18-2019, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Masterofreality

The Circus really is in town today with the Barr press conference and the release of the Mueller Report.
The Barr comments were pretty straightforward, he actually was not required to have a press conference, nor was even legally required to release the report, but did so in the interest of transparency. However, that still wasn't enough for the butthurt Dems and their media minions.

Not only was it not enough, he's actually being attacked for holding it.