Politics Thread

[GoMuskies]

It's actually a pretty sensible idea. Not that I think the FBI can really do much to investigate this or that anyone's minds are going to change. But it gives everyone at least some very thin cover.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Flake flaked. LOL

I actually liked him at one time. I thought Arizona would have two Republicans that weren't the normal rubber stamp voters. Flake turned into a talker without doing anything. As much as McCain aggravated me being Keating 5, he at least wasn't afraid to cross the aisle and make a compromise.

[bjf123]

For those of you opposed to his nomination, let’s say they do an FBI investigation and it turns up nothing relative to if he did, or did not, assault Dr. Ford. Let’s say they even determine that it absolutely was not him, would you suddenly support his nomination? I’m guessing no.


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[GoMuskies]

Democrats were 100% anti-Kav before they'd heard of Ford, so I can't imagine anything changes on that end.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

For those of you opposed to his nomination, let’s say they do an FBI investigation and it turns up nothing relative to if he did, or did not, assault Dr. Ford. Let’s say they even determine that it absolutely was not him, would you suddenly support his nomination? I’m guessing no.


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His record on Corporations vs. Employees, overturn Roe, and the environment, no I am opposed solely on his record as a judge. We already treat corporations like angels and don't need any judge making it easier on them.

[GoMuskies]

Hey man, corporations are people too!

[Caf]

For those of you opposed to his nomination, let’s say they do an FBI investigation and it turns up nothing relative to if he did, or did not, assault Dr. Ford. Let’s say they even determine that it absolutely was not him, would you suddenly support his nomination? I’m guessing no.


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Yes. Not opposed to his nomination, just as it currently stands.

[xudash]

Not a single person on here is arguing that he's guilty based on the knowledge we currently have, especially not Booze. Not a single person. If I'm wrong about that, please find the post. The most democratic of our posters are saying they should make an effort to go get more information. You are arguing against points that have not been made.

There are people here having a reasonable discussion about this, the questions it raises, it's implications, etc. You are not one of them. Please do resist the insane, 'my party is right, the other party is wrong' mindset. It's how we end up with these trash Senators in the first place.

You're way too full of yourself. You are not the moderator here.

I would be pissed off if the Republicans were doing this. I have been pissed off with Republicans were doing stuff like this in the past.

They have had plenty of time to obtain information and plenty of information has been obtained. Confidentiality wanted. Confidentiality breach through leaks.

People now "reasonably want more information". What might that look like? By the way, go for it; I am not opposed to that.

Has it dawned on you at all that it is also reasonable to believe that all of this is about stalling this process and otherwise completely mucking this up for Kavanaugh? Let's not worry or think about that. That would be unreasonable.

[bjf123]

I hope everyone realizes that if the same facts existed for a candidate nominated by a Democratic President, with a Democratic majority in the Senate, the same thing would be happening. They’d be forcing a vote to send it to the full Senate and the Republicans would be going nuts.


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[Caf]

You're way too full of yourself. You are not the moderator here.

I would be pissed off if the Republicans were doing this. I have been pissed off with Republicans were doing stuff like this in the past.

They have had plenty of time to obtain information and plenty of information has been obtained. Confidentiality wanted. Confidentiality breach through leaks.

People now "reasonably want more information". What might that look like? By the way, go for it; I am not opposed to that.

Has it dawned on you at all that it is also reasonable to believe that all of this is about stalling this process and otherwise completely mucking this up for Kavanaugh? Let's not worry or think about that. That would be unreasonable.

Like I said, when you get down to it we almost all agree. I am pissed off that the Democrats are doing this! I've said so!

In my view, the question for Senators voting on this is if Weinstein's sin of sitting on this is really worth nominating a potential sexual assaulter to the Supreme Court without doing full due diligence. The Dems made the original sin on this one, but there was not a single Senator on that panel who didn't politicize this for their party's gain and not a single one broke party lines. It's sad and disappointing.

I completely agree they had time to and absolutely should have escalated/investigated the accusations when they got them. It's a disgrace what's happened and is no doubt not just a stalling tactic, but a tactic to curse his career on SCOTUS if he gets through. That doesn't change the fact that we have no credible facts. After seeing yesterday and the crap that's gone on, how can you come to any conclusion at all? How can you trust that this Senate Committee ran a serious investigation? I want the FBI involved for no other reason than to set the record straight and end this he-said she-said garbage. If I had to guess or decide today, I'd bet Kavanaugh is innocent but I'd rather this country not guess on a lifetime appointment.

Again, the Democrats did unethical, immoral and I think potentially criminal things in this process. That does not mean we should just shrug our shoulders at the allegations against him and move on.