Politics Thread

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Whatever man...obey the effing law, don't put yourself in that situation and i guarantee you won't be killed by a police officer.

Yes my Uncle is a cop, his wife was killed in front of his four kids in their home when an escaped convict from prison came looking for him because he had arrested him the first time. It's one of the reasons I fully support the death penalty, and is another reason I don't have any empathy for stupid fucks or families of stupid fucks who try to portray themselves as just innocent victims.

Yes there are complete ahole cops out there, and ones who think their gun is an extension of their third leg but after the dust has settled, most of these "unwarranted" situations, turn out to be pretty warranted.

That is awful what happened to your uncle but this is apples and oranges. I am referring to brutality and the blue wall that covers for them. It is real and needs to be cleaned. I am not a minority so I don’t know what it feels like daily. I know minorities and I have first hand experience seeing cops hassle them for nothing.


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[Xville]

That is awful what happened to your uncle but this is apples and oranges. I am referring to brutality and the blue wall that covers for them. It is real and needs to be cleaned. I am not a minority so I don’t know what it feels like daily. I know minorities and I have first hand experience seeing cops hassle them for nothing.


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I was replying to your idiotic "Do you know any cops?" question, as if that matters. You love that argument and bring it up in most situations as if it makes your argument stronger...you just did with the "Do you know any minorities? I do."

Are some cops racist? Absolutely. Do some cops take things way too far and are trigger happy? yes and yes. Is this really a "major problem" as you stated? No....it has been sensationalized by liberal media...it's the same song and dance in these cases it seems about every time. Punk breaks the law, Cop is called to situation, punk doesn't listen to cop, cop has to make a split second decision because punk doesn't follow orders and cop shoots punk. Parents immediately get on news crying how their baby is such a good boy even though he has a rap sheet about a mile long, cue picture of boy with a cap and gown or picture of him as a ten year old when he is really 18-25, protest....rinse and repeat.

[Caf]

Are some cops racist? Absolutely. Do some cops take things way too far and are trigger happy? yes and yes. Is this really a "major problem" as you stated? No.

Why not? Is it a matter of scale?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Then how do you not know they are trained to de-escalate situations?

How did this escape you? How does punishment for knuckleheads by cops enter in as acceptable? These aren’t stupid questions.


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[Lloyd Braun]

I was replying to your idiotic "Do you know any cops?" question, as if that matters. You love that argument and bring it up in most situations as if it makes your argument stronger...you just did with the "Do you know any minorities? I do."

People tend to ask if one has been in a situation or know someone who has been in a situation because you may come off as out of touch with the reality of what minorities go through on a daily basis. If I claim blacks and whites are on equal ground and white males have it just as tough with the cops, isn’t the natural reply going to question my past experiences?
You may not like that argument... but the “blame everything on the liberal media” argument isn’t exactly a good one either.

[GoMuskies]

I don't think that's quite what Xville is saying Lloyd. It's more equating, "I don't hate cops, I've got cop friends" with "I'm not racist, I have black friends".

[X-band '01]

THIS SHIT IS GETTING VERY UGLY!!! Let's get back to the point where we are all fans of everything "XAVIER" and put all this divisive crap behind us! The way this thread is going, we are beginning to create lifelong enemies among our fan base. I am sure that was not the intention of the developers of this fine XU website!

To be fair Nick, this is a lot tamer compared to other collegiate boards that allow political discussion. Much like the global warming thread, every poster enters at their own risk.

That is not a green light for posters to personally attack one another, though.

[Xville]

Then how do you not know they are trained to de-escalate situations?

How did this escape you? How does punishment for knuckleheads by cops enter in as acceptable? These aren’t stupid questions.


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I'm well aware how they are trained. However, in actual real life, things don't go "by the book." Some people don't comply and there is only so much "de-escalating" that one can do when that person is not complying, threatens the officer, and/or presumably may have a gun and the cop's life is in danger.

[Xville]

I don't think that's quite what Xville is saying Lloyd. It's more equating, "I don't hate cops, I've got cop friends" with "I'm not racist, I have black friends".

yes exactly.

[Xville]

Why not? Is it a matter of scale?

In my opinion, yes it is the number to which this becomes a "major" problem or not. I'd equate this to illegal immigrants killing or sexually assaulting citizens. Does it happen? Yep. However, I don't think its a "major" problem.

As a country, we really need to start attacking the major issues. In this case, I'm much more concerned with citizens killing citizens which is much more of a "major" problem.