Politics Thread

[Masterofreality]

Did you read the entire article?

Yeah. I read the whole article. This is the key passage:

"Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., the ranking Democrat on the panel, said in an opening statement that “we were caught flat-footed at the outset and our collective response was inadequate to meet Russia’s escalation.”"

Anything after that, including OBummer's "stern warning to Putin" which was largely ignored ("Red Line in the Sand" Obama was great at "stern warnings" with no follow-up action) is nothing more than cover their 2 year old asses from their incompetence. This ludicrous Mueller Investigation that continues to be a marathon nothing-burger is even more off the reservation now.

Typical. Dems playing the reckless finger pointing game to distract from their malfeasance.

[Masterofreality]

Thank you booze. That’s exactly what I’m saying.

X-man if the left is going to keep trying to split hairs on this they’re going to end up proving Trump right. You’re either okay with us detaining minors under Obama and Trump or you’re against it under both or you’re a hypocrite. Making qualifications about it is a fools errand. The border is a gray area where officers have no clue which kid belongs to which adult, if they’re kidnapped, working with cartels or just coming over with Mom and Dad. Regardless, these are kids taken from their homes either by their parents or by cartels in the guide case. Detaining them alone without charge, regardless of what relationship they have with the adults they were with, is against fundamental rights of our country.

Bravo Caf. Excellent points.

[paulxu]

Then you noted where the efforts were directed to protecting our local and state election systems.
Hopefully that was successful, as one wouldn't want to think the Russians cast votes that were counted in the systems.
They seemed to have directed efforts to use social media to influence voters to vote for Trump, and that seems to have worked out OK.
Could we have done more (launched cyber warfare)? Probably. Why didn't they?
Sounds as if they had resource and security issues, and were unduly worried about Trump and his rigged election cries.
As always we could have done more I'm sure. We could have listened to Richard Clarke before 9/11 also.

[Lloyd Braun]

I believe the reason they (Dems) didn’t do more is because they never truly believed Trump would win....that enough people would be dumb enough to allow fake news on social media to influence their vote. They were wrong.

[GoMuskies]

.that enough people would be dumb enough to allow fake news on social media to influence their vote. They were wrong.

Or that enough people would see how truly toxic Hillary Clinton is and vote against her. Whichever is your preferred narrative.

Not a Trump fan. Still don't wish Hillary was the President instead.

[Lloyd Braun]

Or that enough people would see how truly toxic Hillary Clinton is and vote against her. Whichever is your preferred narrative.

Not a Trump fan. Still don't wish Hillary was the President instead.

Your opinion/narrative was in the minority on election night. Either way the Dems miscalculated electoral votes. A lot of people said they were voting for trump because they did not want Hillary. However, a lot of those people (some on this board) are quick to rush to trumps defense. Whether he is at fault or not the country seems to be even more polarized than 2 years ago.

[GoMuskies]

Your opinion/narrative was in the minority on election night

I really don't think it was.

[Lloyd Braun]

I really don't think it was.

If only there was a way to know who got more votes on election night...

[GoMuskies]

If only there was a way to know who got more votes on election night...

What's that have to do with anything? Certainly not the narrative I proposed. And certainly not the election of the president.

[noteggs]

Just lost a great man tonight - Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer... he put civil in civility when discussing politics! Wish we had more of that in today’s environment.