Politics Thread

**paulxu** · 05-08-2017, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Juice

I'm going to call bullshit on a study by an organization who's stated purpose is "to "promote a high performing health care system that achieves better access, improved quality, and greater efficiency, particularly for society's most vulnerable and the elderly."

Good point. We certainly don't want anyone promoting those things. That would be, well...Christian.

Caf · 05-08-2017, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Good point. We certainly don't want anyone promoting those things. That would be, well...Christian.

Wait they promote healthcare for the vulnerable? Disgusting!

Juice · 05-08-2017, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Good point. We certainly don't want anyone promoting those things. That would be, well...Christian.

Oh no you got me, I'm a shitty Christian. You're a better Christian than me. Shit....

Wait, I though there was a separation of Church and State, this is a melting pot of race, cultures, and religions, etc. etc.

And you can still be a Christian and want a limited government. But when the government is your religion, I guess not.

**paulxu** · 05-08-2017, 02:28 PM

Really? Separation of Church and State?
I agree with you on that. Health care has nothing to do with religion; although most believe in helping the less fortunate.

How happy are you then with the new law that will let preachers politic without losing their tax exempt status?

Juice · 05-08-2017, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Really? Separation of Church and State?
I agree with you on that. Health care has nothing to do with religion; although most believe in helping the less fortunate.

How happy are you then with the new law that will let preachers politic without losing their tax exempt status?

That's why people donate money to charities, organizations, etc. to help with these things.

Religion overall is pretty dumb. I think it's a personal matter that people push onto others.

But on the flip side, the government forces a lot of people to go against their own religious beliefs because someone got all pissy about something. For example, the gay couple and the bakery story is dumb for both sides. Gay people shouldn't offend/disgust Christians but why the f*ck didn't the couple just buy the cake from somewhere else? If you know they're possible bigots, why the hell would you give them business? Another example is the Hobby Lobby case. Everyone got on Hobby Lobby's shit because they hate women and their right to choose and force pregnancies on them, and fill in what other bullshit people said. Hobby Lobby gave it's employees 16 options of contraceptives and didn't want to offer 4!. And yet Hobby Lobby is painted as the unreasonable ones. And they didn't stop their employees from purchasing it on their own dime.

To summarize, people use religion in this country when it's convenient for their political arguments. So you arguing the Christian angle has no effect on me.

Caf · 05-08-2017, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Juice

That's why people donate money to charities, organizations, etc. to help with these things.

Religion overall is pretty dumb. I think it's a personal matter that people push onto others.

But on the flip side, the government forces a lot of people to go against their own religious beliefs because someone got all pissy about something. For example, the gay couple and the bakery story is dumb for both sides. Gay people shouldn't offend/disgust Christians but why the f*ck didn't the couple just buy the cake from somewhere else? If you know they're possible bigots, why the hell would you give them business? Another example is the Hobby Lobby case. Everyone got on Hobby Lobby's shit because they hate women and their right to choose and force pregnancies on them, and fill in what other bullshit people said. Hobby Lobby gave it's employees 16 options of contraceptives and didn't want to offer 4!. And yet Hobby Lobby is painted as the unreasonable ones. And they didn't stop their employees from purchasing it on their own dime.

To summarize, people use religion in this country when it's convenient for their political arguments. So you arguing the Christian angle has no effect on me.

Juice, let's cut through this garbage. What do you think people who cannot afford private insurance or don't get it from work should ideally do when they need health care? What options should they have?

SemajParlor · 05-08-2017, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by caf

what do you think people who cannot afford private insurance or don't get it from work should ideally do when they need health care? What options should they have?

Snowflake! This basic desire for human decency is why Trump won!