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    Trump's replacement of Scalia will not alter the Court's idealogical makeup and hence won't have a significant effect on constitutional jurisprudence.

    But RBG, Breyer, and Kennedy are all ALREADY past the average age of Supreme Court retirement/ death. If Trump gets to replace any one of them -- and particularly the first two -- the idealogical shift would be huge (and likely long lasting). At which point Roe v Wade and marriage equality are both very much in play.

    The best (but largely unlikely) scenario for the left is that they are all able to stick out another 4 yrs. A close second is that they are able to stick it out through the mid-term elections in two years so that Dems can get enough power in the Senate to prevent a filibuster rule change and roadblock any vacancies in Trump's last two years like the Repubs did to Obama this year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee View Post
    Sure, cuz when he gets the sanctions released for his thug/murdering brother, Exxon stands to makes billions and billions. Then we got two more nominees who want to essentially eliminate their positions by destroying their agencies. One guy can't even remember the name of the Agency he is now going to head. The National Security Director nominee hates the CIA. Fast food clown thinks 7 bucks is a good wage. Trump wants the Russian interference claims "to go away". Why? What is he afraid of? His own son said Ruskie money was pouring into the Trump Organization, but we can't verify bcuz, of course, he won't release his "no tax" returns.
    So now we got the Swamp populated with older, rich, white guys just like Trump and Mc Connell's wife. Oh, yeah. Hey, that's your Republican party now.
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    $7 is a good wage for the skill required to do that work. You don't want to make $7 obtain a skill that is marketable. If i can train a 16 year old to
    Do that job in a matter of hours it is not a job that necessitates pay in excess of $30k per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caf View Post
    Do you ever actually say anything? Or are all of your posts just rhetorical interjects?

    My apologies for not responding to the Lion King/Mustafa reference with a more noteworthy diatribe. Lord knows this board need more of that.

    Can you do me a favor and shoot me the link to the message board rules or some sort of conversion chart that determines which posts are merely rhetorical interjections and those that are rated as real, hard-hitting, thought provoking and society influencing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdiggins View Post
    $7 is a good wage for the skill required to do that work. You don't want to make $7 obtain a skill that is marketable. If i can train a 16 year old to
    Do that job in a matter of hours it is not a job that necessitates pay in excess of $30k per year.
    Sorry but if you think the argument for higher wages is simply the value of work, you are completely missing the point. The value of the work hasn't changed, it's the value of living which has. Some liberal politicians may phrase it that way, but the movement is gaining steam simply because the minimum wage hasn't kept up with the pace of inflation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smails View Post
    My apologies for not responding to the Lion King/Mustafa reference with a more noteworthy diatribe. Lord knows this board need more of that.

    Can you do me a favor and shoot me the link to the message board rules or some sort of conversion chart that determines which posts are merely rhetorical interjections and those that are rated as real, hard-hitting, thought provoking and society influencing?
    Feel free to post what you like. No one's stopping you. I'd just prefer if people who throw attacks and insults from the periphery actually participated in substance discussions occasionally. And based on the number of reps I got on that post, I'm not alone.

    The lion king analogy was ridiculous. I agree that it goes both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdiggins View Post
    $7 is a good wage for the skill required to do that work. You don't want to make $7 obtain a skill that is marketable. If i can train a 16 year old to
    Do that job in a matter of hours it is not a job that necessitates pay in excess of $30k per year.
    Minimum wages are a function of cost of living, not employment "value". All depressing wages does is shift the obligation to fund a living wage from the employer to the government by way of "entitlements". Because it is literally impossible to live in the US, much less raise a family, for the
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Muskie View Post
    Wages are a function of cost of living, not employment "value".
    This is very, very false unless you intended to include the word "minimum" at the start of this statement.

    And minimum wages should be $10 or $10.25 and then tied to inflation forever so that we don't have to talk about this should-be non-issue ever again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    This is very, very false unless you intended to include the word "minimum" at the start of this statement.

    And minimum wages should be $10 or $10.25 and then tied to inflation forever so that we don't have to talk about this should-be non-issue ever again.
    Correct and fixed. I meant minimum wages. Although I personally believe bloated executive comp (we could call it "maximum wages") is also detached from "value".

    I agree the middle is generally market driven.

    I think minimum wages should be tied to both a cost of living index and inflation.

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    Go ahead and jump in a time machine then and travel back to yesteryear. Coat hanger/back room abortions are awful. Here is an idea, why don't you exercise your right to choose and let the next person exercise their right to choose as well. You do know it's legal at a minimum to save a woman's life in 96% of countries in this world.

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    All abortion is an embarrassment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad View Post
    Coat hanger/back room abortions are awful.
    All abortions are awful.

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