Politics Thread

[ChicagoX]

I see what you're saying. I'd be interested to learn more about the movement. There's definitely a nationwide push by prolife organizations to put the 20 week bans in as many states as possible. I know Roe v Wade is the ultimate target, but I'm unsure of what role 20 wks plays in a strategy.

Almost 99% of abortions take place before the 20-week mark, so in the end, this doesn't really do anything anyway. In Ohio in 2015, just 145 of the 20,976 abortions took place after that 20-week mark, which is 0.007% of the abortions in the state. Most of the time when abortions happen after 20 weeks, it's because of a major birth defect or something related to the health of the mother.

Also, abortion has trended down fairly significantly during the Obama administration, and this is partly due to more women having easier access to birth control. If you don't like abortion, then you should definitely be pro-birth control since that's the best way to prevent unplanned pregnancies. We live in a country where 95%+ of all Americans have sex before marriage, and abstinence-only education has proven to lead to higher pregnancy and STD rates.

[GoMuskies]

Birth control should be in the water like fluoride.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I am literally as pro-choice as you get, but I can't see any reason why we can't have a 24 week ban in place with exceptions (mother's health, etc.). As far as the Trump presidency, I also see no reason why we should send our country back 50 years. The idea is to move forward not backwards. Backroom/alley abortions is an embarrassment of the past that does not need to be repeated.

[GoMuskies]

Backroom/alley abortions is an embarrassment of the past that does not need to be repeated.

All abortion is an embarrassment.

[ChicagoX]

All abortion is an embarrassment.

Says the person without a uterus who has never had to deal with an unplanned pregnancy, been raped or been pregnant with a child with a serious birth defect.

[GoMuskies]

Says the person without a uterus

Not relevant.

[SemajParlor]

Birth control should be in the water like fluoride.

Fluoride in water is a government mind controlling agent. Kidding... kind of.

[bobbiemcgee]

I think I like the Tillerson pick. I preferred Romney, but Tillerson is better than Giuliani or Bolton IMO. Leading a company like Exxon really should be excellent experience for this job.

Sure, cuz when he gets the sanctions released for his thug/murdering brother, Exxon stands to makes billions and billions. Then we got two more nominees who want to essentially eliminate their positions by destroying their agencies. One guy can't even remember the name of the Agency he is now going to head. The National Security Director nominee hates the CIA. Fast food clown thinks 7 bucks is a good wage. Trump wants the Russian interference claims "to go away". Why? What is he afraid of? His own son said Ruskie money was pouring into the Trump Organization, but we can't verify bcuz, of course, he won't release his "no tax" returns.
So now we got the Swamp populated with older, rich, white guys just like Trump and Mc Connell's wife. Oh, yeah. Hey, that's your Republican party now.
Biz as usual.

[GoMuskies]

State has a lot more to do than deal with Russia and sanctions. Tillerson will have to divest his Exxon stock, and he's not going to be able to do anything about Russian sanctions unless Trump wants sanctions against Russia eased.

I generally regard Perry as a moron, so I'm not a big fan. Sessions? Negative. EPA is a clusterfuck that needs new direction, but I'm not sure the Oklahoma AG is the right guy to do it. As mentioned above, I like Tillerson. Chao is certainly qualified. Mnuchin is a brilliant pick for Treasury. Mattis is certainly qualified, but I don't know enough about him to like or dislike his pick. Carson is obviously a brilliant guy, but I'm not sure what qualifies him to run HUD (as opposed to say, be surgeon general). Priebus seems like a huge prick, but I think that's the main job of a Chief of Staff (certainly a guy like Rahm would make you think that). Wilbur Ross is fantastic for Commerce. Puzder for Labor? Meh, but you're not getting the head of the AFL-CIO for a Republican administration. DeVos is interesting for Education. Could be a disaster, but I'll give her a shot. Nothing needs shaking up like our education system. I don't know much about Tom Price at HHS. Nor Michael Flynn for NSA.

Should be an interesting ride.

[Nigel Tufnel]

This discussion reminds me of Bill Burr on population control:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgcmCyKZR08

Starts at about 1:45 in...