Politics Thread

[Strange Brew]

The Progs/Dems/Domestic terrorists aren't in charge of the federal government. Get some thicker skin or move under a rock.

Hmm, so Obama's not the POTUS right now?

Ha, ha my skin is plenty thick. I'm not the one frightened that people correctly believe a news org is biased to the point of being a joke.

[Strange Brew]

I thought the 60 Minutes interview he did last night was encouraging.

Agree. Thought is was a good interview.

[boozehound]

I thought the 60 Minutes interview he did last night was encouraging.

I would agree, although it's tough to really nail down where he stands on anything since it seems to be subject to frequent and random change. I'm a little surprised at how fast he has abandoned some of the key (IMO ridiculous) rhetoric that helped him win the election. At the end of the day, I guess it's way more fun to engage in fantasy about Mexico paying for border walls and manufacturing jobs coming back to the rust belt on a massive scale than to have substantive discussions about complex issues.

It will be interesting to see what policies he supports now that he will be forced to deal with reality on reality's terms. The country's jobs issues aren't caused, or solved, by trade deals and tariffs. They are caused by globalization/mechanization and a mis-match between the skills of a large portion of American workers and the needs of our employers. He sold a lot of people on his ability to wave a magic wand and bring those jobs back through 'good negotiation'. I'm not sure that's possible, although I would love to be wrong about that.

The policy proposal of his that has me most worried is his tax plan. I don't really want to add trillions to our National Debt, even if it saves me some money now. I'm not sure what a Republican congress would do if faced with a President who wanted to slash taxes to historical lows. That could be a very difficult political issue if Congress Repubs are forced to vote against their President's tax plan, particularly when it would be a massive windfall in the short term for many people and businesses.

CNN was colluding with the DNC and you're going to say they may slant a little left? What a joke.

POTUS Trump will have to figure out his biz above board b/c the unhinged leftist media is foaming at the mouth to find something on him. It's humorous you find my utter contempt (deserved) for CNN to be frightening while your fellow Progs/Dems/domestic terrorists are throwing violent temper tantrums in the streets of major cities.

Man, you really bought into the Bannon / Trump rhetoric, huh?

What I find frightening is more the wholesale rejection of fact than anything else. Just because CNN reports a fact, doesn't make it any less true. If CNN were to report something that was incorrect or false I would be more understanding of your position. You still haven't really articulated any real stance on the potential conflict of interest. Are you saying that you are fine with the potential conflict of interest, but he will have to 'figure out his biz above board' only because of the unhinged leftist media?

You also may want to take "LOCK HER UP" out of your sig line now that Trump has essentially admitted that he has no intention of doing that, and never really did. It was a great tactic to get people fired up though, so who cares if it was a lie.

[kyxu]

WaPo, NYT, WSJ, LA Times, Wash Times, Drudge and yes, Breitbart as well. When you read from a lot of sources it because very apparent how big of a joke CNN truly is.

So you basically run the spectrum of partisan news media, which spends a lot of time pointing out how those on the other side are a joke. I guess then I can't blame you for having the perspective that CNN is a farce if you also follow Drudge and (*cough*) Breitbart.

Public Radio is a good alternative to the above, however, with some BBC sprinkled in.

[GoMuskies]

The policy proposal of his that has me most worried is his tax plan. I don't really want to add trillions to our National Debt, even if it saves me some money now. I'm not sure what a Republican congress would do if faced with a President who wanted to slash taxes to historical lows. That could be a very difficult political issue if Congress Repubs are forced to vote against their President's tax plan, particularly when it would be a massive windfall in the short term for many people and businesses.

The Congressional Republicans aren't going to vote against a tax plan that lowers taxes. They just aren't. I'm excited to see what happens if Trump turns this issue over to Paul Ryan. I think he's a details guy that can come up with a good plan. Hope he doesn't disappoint.

I'm also hoping that Trump will save us some money on military spending. That has the potential to pay for a lot of the tax cut (if Laffer is wrong).

[GoMuskies]

The WSJ and BBC America are the best. As long as you avoid the WSJ editorial page (or understand that it is mostly for entertainment purposes only).

[boozehound]

WaPo, NYT, WSJ, LA Times, Wash Times, Drudge and yes, Breitbart as well. When you read from a lot of sources it because very apparent how big of a joke CNN truly is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ntial-history/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/us...ency.html?_r=0

http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-f...cts-1478083150

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...314-story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ntial-history/

Does that make it true? I don't consider the Drudge Report or Breitbart to be any less biased than CNN (or Huffington Post for that matter) so I'm not linking to them.

[boozehound]

The Congressional Republicans aren't going to vote against a tax plan that lowers taxes. They just aren't. I'm excited to see what happens if Trump turns this issue over to Paul Ryan. I think he's a details guy that can come up with a good plan. Hope he doesn't disappoint.

I'm also hoping that Trump will save us some money on military spending. That has the potential to pay for a lot of the tax cut (if Laffer is wrong).

Agreed. I don't know if he will actually get as far as proposing a completely ridiculous piece of legislature to Congress (hopefully someone will stop him if he tries), but I don't think the Republicans would vote against it either.

Military spending is the biggest area for positive impact, IMHO. It's tough to nail down exactly where he stands on that, particularly once the defense industry lobbyists get to him. We has seemed at times to favor both more, and less, military spending.

[Strange Brew]

So you basically run the spectrum of partisan news media, which spends a lot of time pointing out how those on the other side are a joke. I guess then I can't blame you for having the perspective that CNN is a farce if you also follow Drudge and (*cough*) Breitbart.

Public Radio is a good alternative to the above, however, with some BBC sprinkled in.

I fully understand BBs slant which is why I don't link to it on this board. They did however get Brexit and this election correct and it does provide a viewpoint one doesn't get if they rely on CNN and NPR for news. I'll check out BBC America.

[boozehound]

I fully understand BBs slant which is why I don't link to it on this board. They did however get Brexit and this election correct and it does provide a viewpoint one doesn't get if they rely on CNN and NPR for news. I'll check out BBC America.

That is fair. I would probably through Drudge in there as well. I actually think Breitbart is a little more credible than Drudge.