Politics Thread

[Caf]

Deporting people who are here illegally is a surprise? It's scaring people?

It's still far from a reality, but yes. Especially said people. They and their viewpoints don't just disappear because Trump won the election.

If he goes through with said deportation, get used to these flare ups.

[GoMuskies]

get used to these flair ups.

Is that how you describe Jennifer Anniston's character in Office Space's uniform issues?

[ChicagoX]

I don't think Democrats have a valid point at all. If they want to change the rules going forward, fine. We can talk about that. But complaining about losing under rules they were well aware of going in is just assinine. I mean, who spent any appreciable time campaigning in New York, LA and Chicago during the general election this year? Don't you think the three largest cities in the country might have been more of a focus of both campaigns if the popular vote meant a goddamned thing?

Also, Hillary won the popular vote in the 2008 Democratic primary, so Obama's presidency was illegitimate.

If Republicans had lost two of the last five elections after winning the popular vote, they would be equally as upset about the result.

[GoMuskies]

If Republicans had lost two of the last five elections after winning the popular vote, they would be equally as upset about the result.

Maybe, but Republicans are generally idiots, too.

[Caf]

Is that how you describe Jennifer Anniston's character in Office Space's uniform issues?

Hahah got me. +1

[Xville]

If Republicans had lost two of the last five elections after winning the popular vote, they would be equally as upset about the result.

Maybe...but there wouldn't be violent protests and destroying of their city's property

[Caf]

Maybe...but there wouldn't be violent protests and destroying of their city's property

I agree with this. At least in part because Republicans are more spread out, but also because socialists are a fiery bunch. I'd bet a lot of these "protesters" like Bernie a lot more than HRC.

[ChicagoX]

Maybe...but there wouldn't be violent protests and destroying of their city's property

How do you know this? When people feel disenfranchised or feel like their vote their vote didn't matter as much as someone else's, that can lead to protest. You're making a pretty vast assumption that if the GOP had lost two of five elections after winning more votes than the Democrats, they would just sit on their hands and not say anything. I certainly don't condone violence and destruction of property, but you're making a blanket statement without anything to back it up. I think a lot of conservatives would be pretty pissed off if the tables had been turned on them not once, but twice in 16 years.

[GoMuskies]

When people feel disenfranchised

When people feel disenfranchised you tell them to join the club. Or move to one of about 6 states that matter. Or take a civics class.

[ChicagoX]

When people feel disenfranchised you tell them to join the club. Or move to one of about 6 states that matter. Or take a civics class.

So that's your solution? If you feel disenfranchised, join a club or move? You can do better than this.

People feeling upset about the election do have some legitimate complaints. California has about 69 times as many people as Wyoming, but only about 18 times as many electoral votes. Should one state's voters have their voice matter less than another state? I do think there are legitimate points on both sides of the issue. I understand the merits of the electoral college, but people just aren't going to disregard that it's a bit of a flawed system, particularly when the winner of the popular vote has lost two of the last five elections. It's hard to just ignore that.