Delusional cryer fans

[Muskied]

Well, he's going to be waiting a while then. Jobs like that don't open that often. I have a feeling Wiscy might stick with Gard, especially if they finish strong and keep playing like they have been. Just so we're clear, I think Miller would be a good hire for a program like that. I just don't think that's who they're looking at. I think Wiscy is eying three or four coaches, and none of them are Miller. I don't think Florida or Iowa State really looked at him either. Maybe they should have. In fact, they probably should have. I actually like Archie more than the guys that both schools ended up going with. But, I don't think they did. I don't think Wiscy is either. But, I could be wrong. Or naïve. Or both.

Gotcha. maybe they are not. I think he likes Dayton more than people think he should, and he's content waiting on that job. Who knows, if Dayton makes another run that could change the tune of those top jobs available.

[xubrew]

I know agents don't have the best of reputations. And mostly for good reason. But one thing they do for their money is keep their finger on the pulse of the market and help steer their clients through the forest toward their best overall set of opportunities.

It would be reasonable to assume that Archie either turned some jobs down these last few years. If that's true (and I believe it probably is), that tells me that his agent has told him that if he waits a year or two he will have better opportunities. It tells me that the agent has a sense of which jobs may open up in the next few years. And it tells me that the agent knows where Archie stands on the "lists" of those schools.

Archie may not go anywhere this year. The opportunity may not be there. But I'd be very surprised to see him still there in 5 years. Because if that were a reasonable probability, I tend to doubt he would have turned down jobs the last few years.

This is likely going to sound way too general, but I don't know how to say it any other way...

I think we're to a point where most Athletic Directors don't even make the decisions themselves any more. They outsource it to these search firms and consultants, and most of the major programs rely on two or three in particular. It's actually kind of ridiculous when they reach out to these consultants who also double as agents, and they put together a list of candidates, and all of them just happen to be their own clients. So, there's that.

It's as if athletic directors are so insecure that they always want to make sure they can explain their decisions if they don't work out, and this need to CYA basically has them outsourcing what should be their job to firms like Parker, Carr, and others. They're going to push their guys. They also have things that they value that the probably should, other things that they don't value that they probably should (ie having a great season even though you had a shorthanded roster), and there are other things that they value that they probably shouldn't.

Okay, long story (and point) short, I think there are a lot of good coaches out there that would be better hires than what most schools go with, but that don't get hired because that's not who Parker, and Carr, and Fogler, and others are telling these schools they should hire.

Have you ever asked yourself "Why in the hell did they hire this guy and not that guy??" Well, probably because someone else told them to, and they figured that was the safest move just in case it doesn't work out.

[paulxu]

I think Bobinski should hire Miller. Might work out well for everybody concerned.