Chris Mack is College Basketball's 43rd Best Coach

El Shaqtus · 06-03-2014, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by xeus

It's obviously flawed when Josh Pastner makes the list but Quin Snyder does not.

Quin's coke dealer is pissed.

PMI · 06-03-2014, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Xville

Umm no he wasn't...he may have been a conference winner I am not sure but he certainly wasn't the AP or Naismith coach of the year. By the way, Frank Haith was the AP winner in 2012 and that guy couldn't coach himself out of a paper bag.

Uh, yea, but he did win NABC and Sporting News COY in 2013, so obviously he was in many peoples' conversation, and not just in the A10. I tend to doubt he's a great coach based on his full body of work, and I definitely think there were plenty of other deserving candidates for that award in 2013, but as a fact police waiting to prowl every chance you get, you might want to consider your own fact checking before dropping an "Umm no..."

And yes, Frank Haith is an incompetent coach and a program posison.

Xville · 06-03-2014, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z

Jim Crews was National Coach of the year in 2013. Guess the jury is out on his recruiting though.

my apologies D. I didn't realize that you had meant the awards other than the Naismith or AP. My bad.

Xville · 06-03-2014, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by PMI

Uh, yea, but he did win NABC and Sporting News COY in 2013, so obviously he was in many peoples' conversation, and not just in the A10. I tend to doubt he's a great coach based on his full body of work, and I definitely think there were plenty of other deserving candidates for that award in 2013, but as a fact police waiting to prowl every chance you get, you might want to consider your own fact checking before dropping an "Umm no..."

And yes, Frank Haith is an incompetent coach and a program posison.

great...maybe next time you can write a novel explaining why i was wrong.

**bobbiemcgee** · 06-03-2014, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by El Shaqtus

It's got a very severe recency bias too. That's why Crews is ahead of Mack (at least that's the only thing I can think of). Crews had a nice head start in the talent department from his predecessor.

Hey Shaq. What do you have coming in? I'll be cheering as you crush UD twice a year.

PMI · 06-03-2014, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Xville

great...maybe next time you can write a novel explaining why i was wrong.

I don't think a novel was necessarily required here. I just found it very amusing to see you start a post with "Umm... no he wasn't." The snarky/douchey, "your facts are wrong" posts that prove to be entirely ironic due to their own incorrectness always give me a chuckle. No need to get bent out of shape (I'm certainly not interested in that again.)

casualfan · 06-03-2014, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by PMI

I don't think a novel was necessarily required here. I just found it very amusing to see you start a post with "Umm... no he wasn't." The snarky/douchey, "your facts are wrong" posts that prove to be entirely ironic due to their own incorrectness always give me a chuckle. No need to get bent out of shape (I'm certainly not interested in that again.)

Not much funnier than watching a guy try to correct someone, get corrected for being wrong, then get bent out of shape because someone corrected him trying to correct someone else.

Like you said, if you want to be the fact police you better make damn sure your facts are in-line and if they're not you don't have much room to get upset when someone points it out.

PMI · 06-03-2014, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by casualfan

Not much funnier than watching a guy try to correct someone, get corrected for being wrong, then get bent out of shape because someone corrected him trying to correct someone else.

Like you said, if you want to be the fact police you better make damn sure your facts are in-line and if they're not you don't have much room to get upset when someone points it out.

You definitely lost me somewhere here in this ambiguity. Not really sure what you're referring to. Here's a fact: Jim Crews won multiple National Coach of the Year awards in 2013, whether or not anyone here believes he deserved to or not. Personally, I don't.