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11-19-2020, 01:30 PM
boozehound

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Originally Posted by Smails

I think the feds have their hooks into someone and they are singing like a bird. Lots of paper shredding going on in City Hall right now.. delete...delete..delete

What I didn't really gather from the article is whether this was related, or just two completely separate instances?
11-19-2020, 01:46 PM
paulxu

For months before the election, Trump stoked the fire with bogus claims of fraud. He's got millions of Republicans believing it, as we are weeks past the election. And he still continues it.
After proof of Russian interference in 2016, we set up an organization to safeguard our systems. By all counts they did just that.
So...of course he fires the head of that organization whom his administration had hired...for saying it was a safe election.
So far, the rather strange group of lawyers arguing cases for him:
- are batting 1-29, with the one being move the observers from 10 to 6 feet.
- law firms are bailing on representing him because there don't seem to be serious issues
- no incident of "fraud" has been shown or proven, even for one ballot. Lawyers who file claims alleging fraud, are having to admit to judges in court that there is no fraud...rather some sort of impropriety
- one of his attorneys today said it was a plot by Hugo Chavez, who died I think in 2013.

It seems the hail mary is to get Republican state legislators to name the electors...which is against the law. Maybe the Supreme Court will change the law.

All in all, a shit show. The real loser is the American public whose faith in our system is being undermined. And the results of that will be around for a long time.
11-19-2020, 01:58 PM
boozehound

Is Trump really reaching out to low level election officials in Michigan? If so - that should probably be a big deal. I get that apparently nothing Trump does matters to a large group of Republicans, but this should right?

I can't imagine a situation in which the state decides to allocate their electoral votes to Trump despite the fact that he is almost 150K votes behind, but it's still a very bad look for all involved if Trump is communicating with state election officials in the middle of a contested election result.
11-19-2020, 02:14 PM
Strange Brew

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulxu

For months before the election, Trump stoked the fire with bogus claims of fraud. He's got millions of Republicans believing it, as we are weeks past the election. And he still continues it.
After proof of Russian interference in 2016, we set up an organization to safeguard our systems. By all counts they did just that.
So...of course he fires the head of that organization whom his administration had hired...for saying it was a safe election.
So far, the rather strange group of lawyers arguing cases for him:
- are batting 1-29, with the one being move the observers from 10 to 6 feet.
- law firms are bailing on representing him because there don't seem to be serious issues
- no incident of "fraud" has been shown or proven, even for one ballot. Lawyers who file claims alleging fraud, are having to admit to judges in court that there is no fraud...rather some sort of impropriety
- one of his attorneys today said it was a plot by Hugo Chavez, who died I think in 2013.

It seems the hail mary is to get Republican state legislators to name the electors...which is against the law. Maybe the Supreme Court will change the law.

All in all, a shit show. The real loser is the American public whose faith in our system is being undermined. And the results of that will be around for a long time.

Many lost faith in the system due to the collusion investigation and the many affidavits produced to support fraud in the 2020 election.
11-19-2020, 02:24 PM
Smails

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

Quote Originally Posted by Smails View Post
Think on that for a minute...That man has been viewed by the left as the devil for years and now his words somehow matter as long as they are anti-trump. So the CEO of America's largest bank is a liar. Got it! Why do you think Dimon wants Trump out? Don't know. He's on tRUMP's Strategic forum. He doesn't give 2 shits about unity or respecting election results. He wants market stabilization and the opportunity to collect on that 75 million dollar check that Wall Street wrote to grandpa Joe. Are you saying the greedy tRUMP wouldn't take the 75 million?? Hilarious. Go back to your blaze website, you'll feel better.

Relax..remove the tin foil hat and breathe

Yes, the president of the world's largest bank is quite capable of and probably really good at lying. You don't ascend to that type of role by playing nice. And if you don't know why Dimon would want Trump out, I encourage you to get a little more dialed in. Yes, Trump would have gladly taken that 75 million by Wall Street, but he didn't...Joe Biden did. Our president-elect is in bed with wall street and those blue suits are going to come and ask for a returned favor. That's how this whole thing works, even for sinless democrats.

For decades the Democrats have demonized Wall Street as the puppet masters of America's flawed economic system. An economic system that favors the rich and destroys the middle class (their words, not mine). The selective moral outrage in our political system is hillarious and if anyone thinks their party is above the fray, I've got a bridge to sell you. BTW- I've never read the Blaze but I might now since you brought it up.
11-19-2020, 02:27 PM
Smails

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Originally Posted by boozehound

What I didn't really gather from the article is whether this was related, or just two completely separate instances?

I don't know. It just seems odd that all these council people are getting charged in such a short timeline. A friend of mine (who is somewhat in the know) told me he thinks a local real estate developer was tired of getting shaken down every time he went to council for a permit, so he went to the feds and got all Donny Brasco.
11-19-2020, 02:36 PM
xubrew

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Many lost faith in the system due to the collusion investigation and the many affidavits produced to support fraud in the 2020 election.

Of those many affidavits that have been produced...any theories as to why none of them have shown up in court?? Or why it is that when Trump's lawyers are asked to present evidence, they don't actually have any??
11-19-2020, 04:05 PM
GoMuskies

After today's press conference, I feel like my sportsbook should go ahead and pay me on my Biden bets.
11-19-2020, 04:13 PM
boozehound

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

After today's press conference, I feel like my sportsbook should go ahead and pay me on my Biden bets.

This is usually what you do when you have a strong legal case with lots of evidence, right?

It's hard to believe that the President of the United States of America is orchestrating a shit show like this. Here is a 1 minute taste. It looks like an SNL skit, right down to Rudy Giuliani all hunched over in the background opening a bottled water.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1749911.html

This is really getting embarrassing. When does it end?
11-19-2020, 04:15 PM
boozehound

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Originally Posted by Smails

I don't know. It just seems odd that all these council people are getting charged in such a short timeline. A friend of mine (who is somewhat in the know) told me he thinks a local real estate developer was tired of getting shaken down every time he went to council for a permit, so he went to the feds and got all Donny Brasco.

I don't know which would be more corrupt - them all being in the same scheme together, or them all independently being crooked at the same time. I'd imagine it's probably a mix of both, with general environment of everyone taking bribes and kickbacks.