Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Dash, I don't hate Flynn. I think that Barr is politicizing the DOJ for Trump. He did it for Bush/Reagan with Iran Contra.

Just ignore everything I say, and assume it's from someone is biased. OK?

With that premise in mind, you have to explain (if you read) the letter from 2300 former judges and DOJ personnel.
Are they all some sort of left wing conspirators? I really hope you go back and read it.
Take a minute and look at some of the presidents each of them served...decades of service across Dem and Repub presidents.
You honestly believe each and everyone of those civil servants "hate" Flynn. I know you; you're a whole lot smarter than that.

As for the spending in the bills, you point out the Senate bills and their spending. I'll note to you the Senate is controlled by the Republican party, unless Mitch McConnell changed parties when I wasn't looking.

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I think you vastly underestimate how many "career" bureaucrats and government officials despise Donald Trump.

My comment about Barr politicizing the department goes to his overriding federal guidelines on Stone's sentence recommendation, causing 4 prosecutors who handle the case to resign.
And reversing their stance on Flynn.
Both highly unusual.
Do you guys honestly believe those 2300 people, who were appointed and served under many presidents, are actually all out to get Flynn?
There are Republicans and Democrats for sure within the 2300.
Isn't it remotely possible they are legitimately concerned about what is happening?

ps. The Kennedy Center employs about 3000 people; so a relief for them is similar to a small business

Melania Trump sits on the board.

President Trump was OK with the idea:

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But on Wednesday, President Trump defended the $25 million and said he personally approved it.

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/se...nter-heres-why

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Originally Posted by paulxu

My comment about Barr politicizing the department goes to his overriding federal guidelines on Stone's sentence recommendation, causing 4 prosecutors who handle the case to resign.
And reversing their stance on Flynn.
Both highly unusual.
Do you guys honestly believe those 2300 people, who were appointed and served under many presidents, are actually all out to get Flynn?
There are Republicans and Democrats for sure within the 2300.
Isn't it remotely possible they are legitimately concerned about what is happening?

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They’re out to get Trump and Flynn is the proxy.

And it’s also highly unethical/illegal to leak the contents of the calls and those involved. Ask James Clapper.
https://twitter.com/thefirstontv/sta...022070274?s=21

Yup. 2300 Republicans and Democrats.
Let's say they have an average of 10 yrs experience (I'm guessing probably 25)
But, at 10 years each, that's 23,000 man years of experience...all out to get Trump.

Let me get my tinfoil hat on....and off we go :)

My last post on this topic (hopefully). it is just incredibly ironic, but not surprising, that the left wing and the left wing media are searching for reasons to excuse and in fact applaud the illegal behavior of rogue prosecutors and FBI agents.

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Originally Posted by XU 87

My last post on this topic (hopefully). it is just incredibly ironic, but not surprising, that the left wing and the left wing media are searching for reasons to excuse and in fact applaud the illegal behavior of rogue prosecutors and FBI agents.

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So you are including the Wall Street Journal as "left wing media"? See the link in post 5728.

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Originally Posted by X-man

So you are including the Wall Street Journal as "left wing media"? See the link in post 5728.

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Are you kidding me, those guys have gone way to the left. :rolleyes:

Even Fox News seems to be taking a cautious approach to this one: They are posting opinions from their commentators but largely seem to be avoiding making this a major issue on the 'news' portion of their website. In fact, their headline story right now appears to be about some kind of 'Carbon Cowboys'. It's crazy that they are not covering the scandal of the century, particularly when it's so open-and-shut.

I'm sure I'm about to be bombarded with links to Op-Ed pieces from Buck Sexton and Rush Limbaugh blowing the whole thing wide open.

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Originally Posted by X-man

So you are including the Wall Street Journal as "left wing media"? See the link in post 5728.

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I couldn't read the article you posted because it was blocked, and my firm WSJ hasn't been delivered lately. But here is what I read in the WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fly...ed-11589411876

And FWIW, I once read something a few years ago discussing which papers and tv news lean left and right. The article said that the WSJ news actually leans left. It's the WSJ editorial dept that is clearly conservative. Not I sure I agree with the first part, but that's what was written, and it was not written by some conservative news site.

(And note to self- I said my earlier post would be my last post on this issue.)

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Originally Posted by XU 87

I couldn't read the article you posted because it was blocked, and my firm WSJ hasn't been delivered lately. But here is what I read in the WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fly...ed-11589411876

And FWIW, I once read something a few years ago discussing which papers and tv news lean left and right. The article said that the WSJ news actually leans left. It's the WSJ editorial dept that is clearly conservative. Not I sure I agree with the first part, but that's what was written, and it was not written by some conservative news site.

(And note to self- I said my earlier post would be my last post on this issue.)

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As I said before, I don't generally agree with their opinion writers. Your link is to an opinion piece, not a news item. I am a huge fan of their news team...very objective and thoroughly done. Try and read the news piece if you are able.