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Originally Posted by Blue Blooded-05

So that settles it: More Economic Intercourse!

My 80 year old father was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s 2 years ago. He has good days and bad days. If you watch the interview with Biden where he says the quote, he really struggles to find the right word to finish his thought. This happens to my father all the time. I know he knows what word he’s trying to find but he just can’t find it in the moment. You can almost see him panic for a split second before he substitutes a new word he thinks is close and just hopes it’s coherent.

Biden’s verbal gaffes will get passed off as a flub. People will say “if I had cameras on me 24/7, I cannot imagine how much stupid shit I would say.” However, the people with loved ones struggling with various forms of dementia will see it for what it actually is. My father has to trust us with just about every decision he makes. Knowing where Biden is likely headed, I cannot imagine how this will get manipulated for political gain both domestically and internationally.

You’re correct Reagan probably should have stepped down toward the end. But consider the context - He was in the 2nd half of his 2nd term and the Republicans didn’t want his condition exposed as the Cold War was concluding while the Democrats didn’t want HW Bush to become acting President heading into the 1988 election. Their political motivations were thankfully aligned. No way that happens this time.

It sucks that a vote against dementia is a vote for incompetent arrogant buffoonery. But it is what it is.

Once again: Heads we fvcked. Tails we fvcked

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Well said Blue-Blooded. My father is also 80 years old and has had Alzheimers for 4+ years. Watching Biden talk is like watching my father speak when he was in the early stages of the disease. He clearly has dementia and his staff, the DNC and the mainstream media know it. I wouldn't vote for my father to run the country, so why in the hell would I vote for Biden.

MAGA.

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Originally Posted by Lamont Sanford

Well said Blue-Blooded. My father is also 80 years old and has had Alzheimers for 4+ years. Watching Biden talk is like watching my father speak when he was in the early stages of the disease. He clearly has dementia and his staff, the DNC and the mainstream media know it. I wouldn't vote for my father to run the country, so why in the hell would I vote for Biden.

MAGA.

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But you (apparently) voted for Trump???

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Originally Posted by boozehound

I sort of agree with the overall premise, but I think that stating it this way makes it sound like they are equally poor choices. I do not agree with that. Biden has definitely lost a step or two, but Trump is a lunatic with a complete lack of discipline or empathy.

For example: If you had the choice between getting hit in the face with a stick, or a baseball bat, you are screwed either way. I'd still much rather get hit with the stick.

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How exactly is Biden the stick and Trump the bat?

Lost a step or 2? Listen, we understand that you despise DJT (to each his own) but to simply say that Biden has lost s step or 2 is being completely intellectually dishonest. He is literally losing the ability to process thoughts, yet people are confident that he'll build a build a good government? To me that makes zero sense. I've had the unfortunate experience of caring for someone with these issues and it can go downhill in a second. I'm talking a matter of months from forgetting names to needing 24 hour care.

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Originally Posted by Smails

How exactly is Biden the stick and Trump the bat?

Lost a step or 2? Listen, we understand that you despise DJT (to each his own) but to simply say that Biden has lost s step or 2 is being completely intellectually dishonest. He is literally losing the ability to process thoughts, yet people are confident that he'll build a build a good government? To me that makes zero sense. I've had the unfortunate experience of caring for someone with these issues and it can go downhill in a second. I'm talking a matter of months from forgetting names to needing 24 hour care.

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Are you suggesting that Trump has that ability? Evidence, please.

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Originally Posted by X-man

Are you suggesting that Trump has that ability? Evidence, please.

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I'm suggesting that there is no comparison between your (and other's) views of Trump being a sociopathic, narcissistic douche, and evidence of REAL dementia. Biden's neurons aren't firing properly.

Just because you disagree with Trumps trade deals, tax plans, and overall public policy doesn't mean he didn't have the faculties in place to craft them. It's laughable that people are shifting this this narrative. Nobody was talking about Trump having dementia until Biden began his media gaffe tour.

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Originally Posted by X-man

Are you suggesting that Trump has that ability? Evidence, please.

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Originally Posted by Smails

I'm suggesting that there is no comparison between your (and other's) views of Trump being a sociopathic, narcissistic douche, and evidence of REAL dementia. Biden's neurons aren't firing properly.

Just because you disagree with Trumps trade deals, tax plans, and overall public policy doesn't mean he didn't have the faculties in place to craft them. It's laughable that people are shifting this this narrative. Nobody was talking about Trump having dementia until Biden began his media gaffe tour.

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This is just a straight-up falsehood. People have been questioning Trump's mental state, and specifically whether he might have dementia, for several years now. Some of these are pretty thorough in their evaluation of the reasoning behind the assertion.

USA Today Op Ed from 2009 Titled "Does Trump Have Dementia"/

Article from the Atlantic 2019: Is there something Neurologically Wrong with Trump?

Here's one from 2015

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Originally Posted by Lamont Sanford

Well said Blue-Blooded. My father is also 80 years old and has had Alzheimers for 4+ years. Watching Biden talk is like watching my father speak when he was in the early stages of the disease. He clearly has dementia and his staff, the DNC and the mainstream media know it. I wouldn't vote for my father to run the country, so why in the hell would I vote for Biden.

MAGA.

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There's been a lot of speculation that Trump also shows signs of dementia. I could share many links, but it's a waste of time with the pro-Trump (fake news) group.

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Originally Posted by boozehound

This is just a straight-up falsehood. People have been questioning Trump's mental state, and specifically whether he might have dementia, for several years now. Some of these are pretty thorough in their evaluation of the reasoning behind the assertion.

USA Today Op Ed from 2009 Titled "Does Trump Have Dementia"/

Article from the Atlantic 2019: Is there something Neurologically Wrong with Trump?

Here's one from 2015

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Laugh Out Loud!!

Every publication that you quoted is on record long term of hating Trump. The Atlantic is basically equal to Breitbart on the other side.
USA Toaday has never been fair to this administration, never, but you try to cite that as a quotabkle source? Amazing.

BTW. Those who excuse Biden's flubs as Malaprops under the guise of "If you have the camera on you 24/7 you'll get caught saying something stupid" sure are the first ones to jump on Trump when he says something stupid...and he has....just like every damn politician. Trump is a narcissistic a-hole, but he has put a functional government together despite the undermining by lots of long term government workers- and honestly entrenched media who were seeing their little hornets nest of contacts being cashiered-who didn't like their little Fiefdom Club disturbed. Took a while to root those suckers out and it took a while for a private citizen to figure out how some of this internal government iish works, but he did, with overall really good results until this disease craziness started.

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Originally Posted by X-man

But you (apparently) voted for Trump???

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Damn straight. Planning to in November as well.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Trump when he says something stupid...and he has.... Trump is a narcissistic a-hole....

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Got some of it right. Who wants an narcissistic a-hole for President?