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Originally Posted by xubrew

I'm surprised no one has mentioned how Trump fired Vindland and Sondland. On the surface, this looks like an abuse of authority. But, maybe it only looks that way. I do have one question, though. If these two are guilty of presenting false information to congress, then why not charge them with a crime?? I can't help but wonder if one of the reasons they haven't been charged is because they don't want them to have the opportunity to prove their innocence in court. With witnesses and all.

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Sondland and Vinland served at the pleasure of the President and are not protected by Civil Service Laws. There would be no abuse of authority. Their jobs were to provide policy advice and execute the President's policies toward their respective countries/bodies. There isn't a President alive or dead who would't have canned them after the trial. In Vinland's case, he was just reassigned and is still an acting Lt. Col.

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Originally Posted by Smails

Sondland and Vinland served at the pleasure of the President and are not protected by Civil Service Laws. There would be no abuse of authority. Their jobs were to provide policy advice and execute the President's policies toward their respective countries/bodies. There isn't a President alive or dead who would't have canned them after the trial. In Vinland's case, he was just reassigned and is still an acting Lt. Col.

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Okay, then if they provided false, misleading, or purposefully biased information to congress, then charge them with a crime. Let's start cleaning up the deep state!

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Originally Posted by xubrew

Okay, then if they provided false, misleading, or purposefully biased information to congress, then charge them with a crime. Let's start cleaning up the deep state!

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Oh, I absolutely agree with that.

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Originally Posted by xubrew

Okay, then if they provided false, misleading, or purposefully biased information to congress, then charge them with a crime. Let's start cleaning up the deep state!

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If you listened to his testimony, which was corroborated by others, that might prove difficult to do.

On the request line, here's one for Joe from Delaware.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x--n...nfh60q&index=5

Just as an aside, NFL films music like this from the 70's is massively underrated.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

If you listened to his testimony, which was corroborated by others, that might prove difficult to do.

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Ya think?

Questions for political experts and legal experts....

In regards to Roger Stone, was the original sentencing recommendation what you would expect for that kind of a crime?? And, are there previous examples of the AG commenting on sentencing recommendations in the past??

'm not trying to take sides. I'm just trying to educate myself on what the standard sentence for something like this actually is, and whether an AG has ever inserted themselves like this in the past.

Thanks in advance.

Deval Patrick has ended his presidential campaign and by doing so becomes the first candidate to exit a race no one actually knew he was in.

Democrats are calling for Barr to resign and are demanding an investigation. That's nice. I mean...the last investigation went so smoothly!

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Originally Posted by xubrew

Then charge them with a crime!

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It isn't a crime when you have differences over policy with your boss, unless that is a crime at the federal level when it comes to foreign policy matters - - it doesn't appear to be, given that the idiot was terminated from his position and sent back to the Pentagon, along with his toad brother. So, this piece of shit is in no position to be charged, especially with how he weaseled his way through his testimony.

Fabricating false charges. Well, that bone should have plenty of meat on it.

The Far Left had better be careful about pursuing too many investigations. Quid Pro Joe has already been caught up in that and is about to be run out of the 2020 Presidential Race. The old guard in the Democratic Party are beside themselves right now. Bernie Sanders, at least for now. Let that sink in.