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Originally Posted by xubrew

Yeah, the last thing we need is a president who does things like that.

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They all lie....ALL of them.

However lying under oath and getting caught is something that is not the norm.

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Originally Posted by Smails

They all lie....ALL of them.

However lying under oath and getting caught is something that is not the norm.

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True, but I’m just wondering which part is the not the norm part. The ‘lying under oath’ or the ‘getting caught.’

Iowa appears to be heading for a do-over. No, I'm not kidding.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Iowa appears to be heading for a do-over. No, I'm not kidding.

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I can't take complete credit for this, but in the last couple of days Iowa has shown they cannot play defense, cannot score, and cannot count. GOOD JOB IOWA!!

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Iowa appears to be heading for a do-over. No, I'm not kidding.

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Tom Perez has made an absolute disgrace of what's left of the Democratic Party. The fact that they can't even handle a caucus election in one small state sure doesn't inspire confidence in the general public that they can be trusted with anything.
Plus now, they're trying to throw a life preserver to Bloomberg, the same Bloomberg who was all supporting Rudy Guiliani, was a Republican, then an Independent, now a alleged Dem. They'll change the debate rules for an old white guy who got less than one percent of the vote in Iowa but wouldn't change them for Harris or Corey Booker. How inclusive!!!

The fact of the matter is that there is no Dem candidate on the docket who will get the Minority vote out, they'll just sit out, and there's no way any Dem wins without that segment. Landslide is on the way...for Donny boy.

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Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

First sentence: I'm referring to what Bolton, Pompeo, or other "Trump guys" would have had to say under oath. Not sure what you are referring to.

Second paragraph: That's a nice Republican narrative you're parroting there. The only way to get Trump's guys to testify is if they issued a formal subpoena during the trial. Trump would have tied up in court any attempts to do so during the House investigation. You know that.

I agree with you that Biden is corrupt. I wish he would have gone down and hope he still does. But I will say his corruption is a lot less damaging to the country and our democracy than what Trump did. And don't tell me he didn't do anything wrong - if

you're OK with the President trying to get a foreign leader to say something bad about his rival, than you are OK with undermining democracy. I'm not.

Let me ask you this. If (when) a Democratic president pulls this shit in a couple of decades , will you still say it's OK?

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Fixed that for you.

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

Not sure there’s much “class” left anywhere to be throwing that word out however.

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Wait... Is Butler giving us the "No Class" treatment again??

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Originally Posted by xudash

Paul, Clinton literally lied and was caught at it.

What mistakes did Trump make?

And even if he made "mistakes", as a fair and balanced QUID PRO QUO, how about you have your boy Schiffy and company step to the podium and admit what they did in all this. Oh, and have the Bidens step up to the podium as well.

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My comment was concerning how to handle the situation like a statesman. Was hoping. Was wrong.

So is Tyrique unchained or no?

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Originally Posted by Juice

They move from these states because they no longer can afford to live there and then bring the same failed policies to their new states. It's remarkably stupid.

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We'll see if California finally starts to lose electoral votes after the 2020 Census. States in the Northeast (especially New York) have been hemorraging EVs down to the Sun Belt and places in the West like Arizona and Nevada.