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"I don't see anything changing with regard to our ability to get on there (sp) level. Not in my lifetime." - UDPrider
I might be wrong on this, but I don't think I am: Rivals is not going to move Semaj up at all because Rivals doesn't rerank 5th year players. Semaj wasn't considered a HIGH SCHOOL player last year. It's a prep school. Oak Hill is still considered a high school. Scout is the only service I know of that reranks players and STILL includes kids that should be already in college, technically. Thus the big discrepancy between the Scout and Rivals ranking for Semaj. Semaj didn't make that jump in Scout's rankings until he was at Brewster....he wasn't a 5 star when he was in high school.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-man
Are you sure about that, I thought that was just espn.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcubspoe
Those poor bastards.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Their heads must have exploded when this news broke the wire.
Whether he actually gets here or not, the idea that we can recruit at this level and UD can't has to be hard for the douchiest among them to swallow.
It really sucks to be a UD fan.
I LOVE it!
If he truly can go from JUCO to the NBA then we'll never see him in a Xavier uniform. Especially if you believe he'd be a 1-and-done anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by MuskiePimp23
Even if for some reason Thomas does not make it to XU, at least the fact that someone of his talent level has pleged and given the UD Fanbase a collective conniption is just freaking great.
I was thinking of the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chermy23
To be fair, some of the Priders are snapping back at their own for their lame comments about Thomas and Xavier's seeming willingness to soil its reputation by recruiting such "questionable" kids.
Those of them who can think clearly cite our graduation rate and streak for seniors, and otherwise point out that Xavier puts effort and resources into helping these young men properly navigate their student-athlete duties.
Then you have assholes like the following:
Check out this commentary on C. Thomas. http://hoopdreamsmag.com/?p=2641
It calls to mind the recent discussions on this list about X taking chances on high-risk (high-reward) players where UD has not. Those high-risk kids have become significantly evident the past few years with their team's on- and off-court behavior, especially under the (lack of) control of Chris Mack. This recruit appears to be the epitome of that high-wire act by X. Another incident like the one with UC this season will really put a tarnish on their image.
I wonder where the University stands on these recruiting decisions by Mack? A lack of "institutional control"? or is it a matter of "whatever it takes to maintain (or elevate) a top 25 program"?
If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
P.S. Judging by the list on this website, with Xavier having 4 of their top 28 listed recruits, this site must be run by an X grad.
It's rationalization -- a neurotic defense mechanism -- plain and simple. It's like the DSM was written about ud fans:
I knew my Psych degree wasn't completely useless.Quote:
"when the individual deals with emotional conflict or internal or external stressors by concealing the true motivations for his or her own thoughts, actions, or feelings through the elaboration of reassuring or self serving but incorrect explanations."
Explain to me what's ironic about my post. The only irony will be what will hopefully happen in two years when many of the same people who hate and disrespect Kentucky for winning with one and dones are going to be giddy over our own one and done.Quote:
Originally Posted by DezDispenser
I don't think this has gotten enough attention. 10 Star Backcourt!! I'm filing for a trademark.
You are correct, this is just ESPN, I believe Dave Telep does their rankings for the most part.Quote:
Originally Posted by More Cowbell
Eric Bossi and Jerry Meyer have already said on rivals that Semaj is poised to make the second biggest jump of all the ranked players. They have hinted that he will be borderline 5 star or may even make the jump to 5 star status on Rivals. I don't believe they are going to update their rankings for another month or so however.
He truly has the talent to do that, but having another year in college at a Division I school playing big time basketball will also give Thomas a lot more life experience and maturity to deal with having basketball being your job and having all kinds of money and other temptations thrown out at him. I believe his family wants him to go to a D-I school for at least a year to experience a bigger level of basketball before jumping straight to the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Muskie
I'm nervous that if he's clearly that good, he may jump before he gets here. However, I think there is something to the idea that playing at the D1 level and particularly in the NCAA tournament versus just playing in JUCO would be both attractive to him and valuable for him. It really just depends on what people tell him in terms of how highly he would likely be drafted after his JUCO year. We shall see. If nothing else, hopefully this gives us momentum with some other 2013 recruits.Quote:
Originally Posted by MuskiePimp23
There's a whole lot that can happen between now and the time Thomas puts the X on.
The Snipes comment on a season being a lifetime seem appropriate. So, how long must a season AND two off-seasons be.
....long time....
It is ok to speculate - and somewhat entertaining and interesting - but to give any of it any real weight at all is pure folly.
It is nice to see a big time recruit commit, but when a bigger name comes calling (i.e. Kentucky) it will really test his decision. I won't believe he will play at Xavier until he actually is on the court. I have seen too many recruits jump else where in my short stint of following recruiting. A lot can happen in a young man's mind, just have to wait and see.
From what I saw big name schools (Kentucky etc.) came calling then backed off. But, if this guy is close to as good as some posters are saying he will go to the NBA after his 1 JUCO year.
I just don't know why he would commit if he could go pro and wanted to after his JUCO year, it doesn't make sense to me.. call me crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier
+1.Quote:
Originally Posted by GIMMFD
Also, the power players can come after him all they want, but, in his specific case, it appears as though relationships are key and important to him, especially given the lack of historical stability in his life.
If his overriding idea is to get to The League, he already knows he can get there easily through Xavier. If he chooses to enjoy the collegiate experience, why not do that with people who've been behind you without ever giving up on you.
Maybe he likes Midwest College Girls, Maybe he wants to go to an NCAA Final 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by GIMMFD
I'm an educated man, but I don't know the commitment habits of Chris Thomas.
What I do know is that he is set to attend Xavier University in 2013.
Are these really the questions I was called here to Answer? NBA and JUCOS'S?
All that is well and good, but if he is going to be, say, a consensus lottery pick after his one JUCO year, he'll probably go. Why commit if there's a chance you may go? To cover your bases. I really hope he comes to Xavier and think playing in D1 and in he tournament is a great incentive for an aspiring player, but if everyone is telling him he's a sure-fire lottery pick, I would imagine he'll go. You rarely see guys get drafted high right out of JUCO so I'm not saying I think that will happen, just saying IF it happens...
Awesome adaptation of a great movie. I laughed out loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muskied
I don't really follow the NBA much, so some of my thoughts are probably based on ignorance of the league and its operations, but Thomas wanting to spend some time at a D-I school makes sense mainly for the following reason:
-Showing he can follow through on something.
If I were an NBA team, I think it would be difficult for me to commit serious money and resources to a kid who, although it sounds like he is getting things on track, seems to have issues finishing what he started. Now, I don't know what part, if any, of NBA contracts are guaranteed, but even if nothing was guaranteed, what if a team picks him, he doesn't work out, and they just threw away a lottery pick--that's much more expensive in the long run than just a few hundred thousand, or even a couple million bucks in salary--they just wasted a lottery pick that could have led to a franchise building block had they not hypothetically "wasted" it. The NBA has been struggling in recent years, correct? Some teams are not making a profit? So, I would think teams are being much more careful regarding how they spend their money.
Xavier is in the perfect position to make a gamble like this. Even if he comes to classes for one year on scholly, but never plays a minute for X, what are the consequences? X plans to have all athletic scholarships filled, so any costs going toward Chris Thomas are already accounted for and would be going toward someone else if he weren't here, but now we've got a chance to put the top SG in the class on the floor. You take that shot every time. Heck, like others have said: even if he doesn't end up here, I still think the fact that the current highest-rated commit for 2013 has XAVIER next to his name is HUGE... other top recruits see something like that, and I think it works to X's advantage.
I agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by X-ceptional
Can someone name the last successful American player (notwithstanding Brandon Jennings) since the new rule of 1 year of college went into effect? JUCO does not help draft stock.
Am I the only one not hugely impressed by the videos posted?
They aren't instructive? The best vid of any Xavier player I have seen was Brad Redford's.Quote:
Originally Posted by smileyy
Yes. What aren't you impressed with? His crazy athletic ability? His vision dropping dimes? His really good handles as a 6'5 guard? His ability to hit tough contested shots? Yep, sounds like your average HS player.lQuote:
Originally Posted by smileyy
I don't know, every time I watch a mix tape video, it reminds me of when Dave Chappell did a spoof of mix tape videos. I can't concentrate on the quality at that point regardless...Quote:
Originally Posted by X Factor
http://www.comedycentral.com/video-c...-and-1-mixtape
I would say yes. What I saw looked like Jordan Crawford's skills with Dez's frame. I don't drool over recruiting tapes, but that kid looks like a program changer.Quote:
Originally Posted by smileyy
Good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muskied
Good.
Good.
Game....blouses. Would you like to come to my house for some pancakes?
Edit......Sorry, I thought you were referencing the Chappell show when Charlie Murphy and co played Prince w/entourage in hoops. THAT is what his mix tape looks like to me.
I'm curious as to what you find unimpressive. He looks pretty nasty to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by smileyy
I would hope. Are you drunk?Quote:
Originally Posted by smileyy
I wasn't that impressed either. I'm sure he is amazing. I'm just skeptical about recruits these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by smileyy
We're you impressed with Dez's highlight tapes? John Wall? Austin Rivers?
I couldn't get much out of the videos, either. Looked like he was playing in a league with very bad competition and no size. Maybe it's just that he's so good he made everyone else look bad. Or maybe everyone else was just bad.
yeah, there is a bit of a question on the level of competition, but of the two videos i posted earlier, the one was his AAU team the Colorado Hawks... hard to tell the quality of play you're getting when it comes to AAUQuote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
But, the second video is from is time at South Kent. While it doesn't seem to be a GREAT team, they play in the same prep league (or at least a lot of the same teams) as Brewster (losing to them once this season). You can see a few plays from their 10-pt win against Tilton School, featuring Nerlens Noel. From what I've seen several places, the New England Prep leagues are loaded with talent, and are a pretty decent place to hone your skills, as far as what is available before college...
I'm trying to temper my excitement, but... DAMN, it's the first week of the 2012 off season--no college bball for half a year! If he doesn't ever play for X, oh well... for now, I'm going to enjoy the commitment
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsihalPHMM1qgh54x.gif
Which videos are you guys watching? The last one I watched showed him cross up Nerlins Noel, the number one center in the country. It was sick. I'm astonished that people are not impressed by his talent. Competition aside, just look at his raw abilities. His shot, his handle, his leaping, his finishing on the fast break. I'm no scout, but this one is a no-brainer to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies