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11-03-2010, 07:12 PM
waggy

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Originally Posted by barrack 9

It seems Justin Martin was ruled a partial qualifier because a course he passed at Lawenece North High School was not acceptable to the NCAA and not because he did poorly in the course.

Is there a link for this?
11-04-2010, 06:57 AM
BigMoeMusketeer

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Originally Posted by barrack 9

It seems Justin Martin was ruled a partial qualifier because a course he passed at Lawenece North High School was not acceptable to the NCAA and not because he did poorly in the course. Since Michael Chandler also attends Lawence Horth HS, odds are he has, or will take, the same course. Not sure how our coaching staff can have much effect on this situation; especially with the past reports of LN HS coach's hard feelings towards Mack. Has this been discussed earlier?

I'm not expert on either Lawrence North, nor their core course curriculum, but I believe the challenges with Chandler qualifying will go well beyond his core courses. As the NCAA put it, there are 3 things that can ding you: test scores, GPA, core courses -- I think Chandler's struggles are with A and B, not necessarily C. I'll try to find a link, but one of the national recruiting guys (daniels? bosse? telep?) mentioned months ago that his scores and gpa were an issue..at least I think that is what I recall.
11-04-2010, 07:04 AM
ballyhoohoo

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Originally Posted by barrack 9

It seems Justin Martin was ruled a partial qualifier because a course he passed at Lawenece North High School was not acceptable to the NCAA and not because he did poorly in the course. Since Michael Chandler also attends Lawence Horth HS, odds are he has, or will take, the same course. Not sure how our coaching staff can have much effect on this situation; especially with the past reports of LN HS coach's hard feelings towards Mack. Has this been discussed earlier?

The problem with Justin Martin was not the course at Lawrence North itself. The problem was that a core course he took at Moutain State Academy (his second high school) was to similar (in the eyes of the NCAA) to a course he took at Larry North. MSA was trying to say that they were two different course and the NCAA was not having any of it.
11-04-2010, 07:06 AM
BiggieXU

Not that this is a source or anything, but the Purdue fan I'm friends with made fun of Xavier for getting Lawrence North guys because they apparently have problems qualifing from there.
11-04-2010, 08:09 AM
muskiefan82

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Originally Posted by BiggieXU

Not that this is a source or anything, but the Purdue fan I'm friends with made fun of Xavier for getting Lawrence North guys because they apparently have problems qualifing from there.

I hope you then referred him to the video of the last meeting between X and Purdue
11-04-2010, 09:37 AM
joe titan

BMOE: Sorry but you fall victim to believing highly inaccurate statements from questionable sources. For sure SAT/ACT scores are easily verified and GPA, both from Lawrence North & Mountain St, are within arms' reach to check.

Some other "big name" schools who were rejected by Chandler fueled the incorrect basis why they could not land such a touted local recruit.

Not saying they are holding a Rhodes for Chandler, nor that Lawrence & Mountain St. should compare to Jesuit secondary schools, but it is only questions about his core coursework that doomed Justin Martin.

It does seem perplexing that NCAA goes to substantial lengths to compare specific core courses at Lawrence to determine the overlap to courses at Mountain St, but cannot figure out on timely basis how a Memphis player received passing grade in one more advanced math course without passing a more basic course first.
11-04-2010, 09:44 AM
BiggieXU

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Originally Posted by muskiefan82

I hope you then referred him to the video of the last meeting between X and Purdue

Ha, I actually watched that game with him. It was great, but he expected to lose since they were young then.
11-04-2010, 10:01 AM
LA Muskie

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Originally Posted by ballyhoohoo

The problem with Justin Martin was not the course at Lawrence North itself. The problem was that a core course he took at Moutain State Academy (his second high school) was to similar (in the eyes of the NCAA) to a course he took at Larry North. MSA was trying to say that they were two different course and the NCAA was not having any of it.

That is what I have heard as well. Also, when it comes to core course requirements, it is almost always due to a transfer and an issue as to whether a course taken a the new school satisfies another core requirement or is too similar to a course taken at the prior school and therefore does not constitute an additional core credit.
11-04-2010, 02:31 PM
whitesox

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Originally Posted by joe titan

BMOE: Sorry but you fall victim to believing highly inaccurate statements from questionable sources. For sure SAT/ACT scores are easily verified and GPA, both from Lawrence North & Mountain St, are within arms' reach to check.

Some other "big name" schools who were rejected by Chandler fueled the incorrect basis why they could not land such a touted local recruit.

Not saying they are holding a Rhodes for Chandler, nor that Lawrence & Mountain St. should compare to Jesuit secondary schools, but it is only questions about his core coursework that doomed Justin Martin.

It does seem perplexing that NCAA goes to substantial lengths to compare specific core courses at Lawrence to determine the overlap to courses at Mountain St, but cannot figure out on timely basis how a Memphis player received passing grade in one more advanced math course without passing a more basic course first.

There have been a lot of rumors about Chandler's ability to qualify for a long time. These certainly did not come up just because he chose to attend Xavier.

I hope he qualifies and certainly have no idea how close he is, but these questions did not arise because he ended up at Xavier instead of a "bigger" school.
11-04-2010, 03:34 PM
wkrq59

Whitesox,
I still believe as I have stated in the past that there is just too much coincidence in the fact that Xavier has a player denied full qualifying status by the NCAA after a high school coach bitched out both Xavier and Mack when the player decided to go to an academy to bolster his academics.
It's plain the coach has motive and opportunity to screw Xavier by simply sending a transcript to the academy which shows the student completed one core course when in fact he hadn't or affixing a name to a so-called core course when in fact it was not.
As far as Memphis not knowing about Rose, that was as BS as Kentucky not knowing about Bledsoe and the NCAA not knowing about either. The NCAA doesn't give a damn about the kid when it comes to a smaller school v. one of the B6. All you have to do is see the movie "Blind Side" to get a clear picture of the NCAA and how it is manipulated every year by coaches who lost out on signing a blue chip prospect. Please don't ever tell me Tom Crean nor the Purdue coach had nothing to do with vengeance, because both are small people who can't stand the fact that Xavier is a more attractive school than their basketball factory as far as many parents are concerned.:D:D

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