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10-08-2019, 04:11 PM
Mrs. Garrett

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Originally Posted by noteggs

After reading your message again, if you meant he doesn’t get impeached and finishes his term(s), would he receive a pardon if convicted of obstruction? I would say yes just like Nixon.

I would think a pardon would depend on the party affiliation of the next president.
10-08-2019, 04:27 PM
noteggs

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrett

I would think a pardon would depend on the party affiliation of the next president.

Oh without a doubt! Political suicide if a democrat did it. If he resigns, it would probably be Pence. After that it’ll be the next Republican President.
10-08-2019, 07:37 PM
paulxu

You've built a nice case for why he should resign before being impeached, and get pardoned by Pence for crimes committed while in office.

If Pence were to extend that pardon to other crimes being pursued prior to his taking office, that might cause some problems for the party.
10-08-2019, 08:35 PM
bjf123

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Originally Posted by paulxu

You've built a nice case for why he should resign before being impeached, and get pardoned by Pence for crimes committed while in office.

If Pence were to extend that pardon to other crimes being pursued prior to his taking office, that might cause some problems for the party.

I think the President an only issue pardons for people convicted of federal crimes. If someone is convicted in a State court, a Presidential pardon is not relevant.

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10-08-2019, 09:44 PM
scoscox

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Bill Clinton obviously disagrees with this assessment. I know you meant "and removed", but we've got to get back into these distinctions it seems. And what you say may be true, but since it's never happened, I'm not sure.

Correct. I was making some assumptions there that I shouldn’t have.
10-09-2019, 03:32 PM
GoMuskies

How can incredibly smart people be so stupid? First, Elizabeth Warren has her well-documented courtship with being Native American (and it turns out she's about the least Native American person in America). Now, she lies about getting fired from a job in 1971 for being pregnant. For no reason! All she had to say is that she knew women who were fired back then for being pregnant, and virtually no one would have objected. But for some reason it had to be a first person narrative. Just a ridiculous thing to do and that really has no upside. Just as she was passing Biden in the polls (and with one of her main rivals fresh off a heart attack).
10-09-2019, 04:10 PM
paulxu

Not everybody can be a "very stable genius."
10-09-2019, 04:12 PM
GoMuskies

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Not everybody can be a "very stable genius."

Good point. I guess I have to rethink all the praise I've heaped on Trump over the years in this thread.
10-09-2019, 05:00 PM
GoMuskies

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Originally Posted by SemajParlor

Hmm. Yeah I think to avoid confusion maybe it should be "leave office." I'm willing to put $20 on it and loser donates to site. Come on everyone wins, even this deranged place of lunacy we call Xavier Hoops. Either that or I'm suffering withdrawals until the Preakness.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I'm in for $20. Wouldn't be surprised to lose that one for any number of reasons, but I don't think it will be Russia. Most likely loss for me (IMO): he just gets tired of it and claims some sort of health issue and resigns. Or he randomly grabs a stranger by the pussy. Equally likely.

Reminder given that this bet looks like it may come down to the wire!
10-09-2019, 08:22 PM
scoscox

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

How can incredibly smart people be so stupid? First, Elizabeth Warren has her well-documented courtship with being Native American (and it turns out she's about the least Native American person in America). Now, she lies about getting fired from a job in 1971 for being pregnant. For no reason! All she had to say is that she knew women who were fired back then for being pregnant, and virtually no one would have objected. But for some reason it had to be a first person narrative. Just a ridiculous thing to do and that really has no upside. Just as she was passing Biden in the polls (and with one of her main rivals fresh off a heart attack).

Warren is a psycho

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