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Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad

When your teenage daughter is pregnant and doctors think it will kill her then you can preach on your high horse how "all" abortion is awful. To take that choice out of the mother's hands to save her own life is terrible. I mean it literally sickens me.

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I'll preach right now, thanks. Because I didn't say that a mother shouldn't have that choice where her life is at risk. So take your bullshit, selective sickness somewhere else.

And yes, that abortion is still awful, because someone is still dying. Sometimes things that are necessary still fucking suck.

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Originally Posted by ChicagoX

I've always thought that the minimum wage should be tiered toward cost of living. A $15 minimum wage is likely necessary in places like Seattle and San Francisco where the cost of living is exorbitant, but in rural areas with a low cost of living, a lower wage in the $8-$10 range could be enough for a full-time worker to get by and pay bills.

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Which is EXACTLY what the government does. There is a base rate of pay for all General Schedule government employees. A locality percentage is added to the base rate DEPENDENT on where you live. San Fran, Houston, and some others have a very high percentage added. Other places have very little added.

4 million sign up for Obamacare for 3 weeks of coverage? Anxious to get switched to Trump's voodoo plan on 1/21 I guess.

Things I have read state that 'Pubs want to repeal the ACA with the actual final date being pushed out a few years (2-3). This gives Pubs the ability to stand in front of cameras pandering to their base saying they did repeal it, now have 2-3 years to come up with something new, and state the nobody lost coverage currently.

It's actually a pretty good strategy, but if they don't come up with a new plan before it expires it could backfire.

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

4 million sign up for Obamacare for 3 weeks of coverage? Anxious to get switched to Trump's voodoo plan on 1/21 I guess.

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If you can't figure out something in 7 years of talking about it, I'm not all that confident in 3 more. Smoke and mirrors.

I agree with you PaulXU, just typing what I have heard/read in the last couple of weeks. Pubs can't repeal the ACA on day #1 with nothing, 10M or more American's won't be covered with Healthcare. That includes my carpool partner's four year old granddaughter.

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Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad

I agree with you PaulXU, just typing what I have heard/read in the last couple of weeks. Pubs can't repeal the ACA on day #1 with nothing, 10M or more American's won't be covered with Healthcare. That includes my carpool partner's four year old granddaughter.

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They would be covered with Healthcare, just like they were covered before the ACA. They may not be covered with Health Insurance, but to say people did not have access to healthcare is just false.

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Originally Posted by bigdiggins

They would be covered with Healthcare, just like they were covered before the ACA. They may not be covered with Health Insurance, but to say people did not have access to healthcare is just false.

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People don't get this fact. The ACA provided people inexpensive (highly subsidized) but generally robust health insurance, relative to the norm. "Access to healthcare" was always available.

I see 4 million people sign up for highly subsidized health insurance, and I don't see this as a good thing. I see continued increases in privatized health insurance premiums to offset the subsidized ACA generated policies.

"Access to healthcare" was always available but nobody paid the hospital bill, which, of course led to higher premiums for all. Duh. The American Hospital Assoc. warns Congress they'll take a $165 billion hit with no Obamacare. Preventative care works.

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

"Access to healthcare" was always available but nobody paid the hospital bill, which, of course led to higher premiums for all. Duh. The American Hospital Assoc. warns Congress they'll take a $165 billion hit with no Obamacare. Preventative care works.

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You want to argue with me that 30 million subsidized health premiums, along with the claims and utilization that accompanies the policies are cheaper than hospital write-offs on the 1-offs of people who don't have insurance?

Go talk to an actuary.