Now that time has gone by, I am thrilled that this kid didn't wind up at X. Seems like he has the potential to be an issue. Well, assuming he's ever academically eligible.
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Now that time has gone by, I am thrilled that this kid didn't wind up at X. Seems like he has the potential to be an issue. Well, assuming he's ever academically eligible.
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Originally Posted by shock3
Looks like he's taking whoever will offer him, now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xman95
Like some others (Robert Whaley), he is talented but has issues- not the least of which are academics. If he is declared eligible next year, while Justin Martin is not, there should be a Grand Jury investigation.
I'm surprised BeelzeBob is not involved. This kid looks right down his alley.
You're probably right: the banks are closed on New Years Day, so it may take a bit longer than usual to make sure checks clear etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by shock3
EDIT: Forgot about UCF commit. Now I am glad he isn't coming to Xavier.
(Tweets linked together)
"Fight just broke out between Michael Chandler of LN and someone from North Central. Not sure who it was. Really, really ugly scene...Benches cleared and some fans rushed the floor. Cops had to come out and pull people off of each other ... The North Central player was Timothy Bass. He is a 5'7 senior guard. He and Chandler have been ejected. Don't know what started it, but... Chandler was seriously trying to hurt him. He was over the top of him throwing punches... Michael Chandler just came out of the locker room for the 2nd half. He is sitting one row behind his teammates. I thought an ejected player ... couldn't return to the court. Honestly, he doesn't deserve to be out here. Poor move by LN and Keefer to allow that... "
http://twitter.com/#!/mb_weaver
Let UCF have him i am glad that DSR was not involved.
lol ur addition totally defeats the purpose of my post
I gave you reps, don't worry.
D'vauntes was involved in that fight. I live in Indy and they show a replay of the fight on 13 WTHR. The video clearly shows D'vauntes throwing a punch and then running away from the fight. I hope he just got caught up in the moment and let his emotions get the best of him. He is a great talent but I am starting to question the character of this kid.
I was involved in a bench clearing brawl during a baseball game while in high school. Guy charged the mound after a brush back. You are expected to stand up for teammates in sports. I have never been arrested for anything in my life, I have never been in a street fight, and I am in no way a person who would have ever been a bad representive to my college.
Do you not run out to protect teammates? If DSR's teammate was getting attacked, and he is coming to Xavier, he better damn well do something. Xavier players don't take that shit, and haven't been since we have become a true power. It is part of our identity. Starting brawls--No. Mind fuking teams--YES, Standing up or teammates--YES.
Why is something on DSR in the Chandler thread?
I hope you have more information on DSR that we don't know. If your doubting him for throwing a punch, thats weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by xuphan
A indirect link to the video of the incident is here: http://www.wthr.com/category/89371/operation-basketball. Click the 5:25 "Operating Basketball" Video on the right side. He definitely threw a little punch into the scrum, but he didn't go all Ron Artest on anyone and it sure as hell isn't enough to make me doubt the kid's character. But that's me.Quote:
Originally Posted by rhyno2110
I live in Indy too, graduated from North Central, and have several friends that coach HS and AAU ball here and are close to both LN and NC etc. I'm not trying to get into a "I'm so connected" debate, but I think it's important to note that I've never heard a bad word about DSR. Michael Chandler? Not so much.
Reps. I have never heard a single bad word about DSR from anyone, and in this instance he is just doing what I expect from him, and that is standing up for his teammate. Would absolutely love to have this kid back. Chandler? Not so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by stophorseabuse
Here is another video of the fight http://yfrog.com/0o2ttzQuote:
Originally Posted by stophorseabuse
The video clearly shows DSR running into the fight, punching Chandler in the head and then running away. I really dont have a problem with him getting into a fight to protect his teammates but the video shows that this was not the case. If he was trying to protect his teammates he would have stayed in the fight. I dont think one punch and running away shows that he is standing up for his teammates. It is interesting to see a Xavier decommit punching another Xavier decommit. Maybe Chandler said something about Xavier and DSR decided to lay one on him because of it.
This is a bit of an odd topic to be discussing, when to fight and not to. From what I have been reading, between the players on both teams this wasn't the biggest surprise in the world, apparently alot of trash talking and what not before hand. If DSR were to have done something to stand up for a teammate though, what he did do is exactly what I would prefer cause the alternative would be continuing to hit Chandler and doing possible bodily harm, which would clearly not be what I would want.Quote:
Originally Posted by xuphan
Lose, lose situation but as it was stated above, X players do not get punked so I have 0 problems with what DSR did.
http://blogs.indystar.com/preps/2011...nate-incident/
Not sure if this has been posted yet. Very unfortunate and I've read reports that DSR could be facing a suspension because of multiple punches thrown. Makes me not so regretful that we lost out on them (most likely in DSR's case)
We have not officially lost out on DSR yet. All indications are that he still is high on Xavier. But he will take some visits after the season to other schools. We'll see how that plays outQuote:
Originally Posted by moepvc04
I'm not seeing where it says DSR threw punches. Is that in a different article? I do see where it says Chandler was fighting.
DSR is still a target for X. I don't want to start a discussion about him getting into a fight if it never happened.
I don't give two shits that DSR threw a punch in a benches clearing brawl. Was he supposed to sit off to the side while every other player got into it? Chandler is obviously a moron but DSR didn't do anything in that situation that a lot of us wouldn't have done. Let's not play the holier than thou card.Quote:
Originally Posted by moepvc04
Yes, because every basketball player, especially every talented basketball player, should have it drilled into his head that nothing good, and lots of bad, will come from joining a scrum out on the floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juice
If he threw a punch initially and then moved away, it's possible that in that moment it clicked that he needed to get away from the fight before it got out of hand.
From those videos, I have zero problem with DSR and his actions. He didn't instigate the fight. He took a swing...big deal. Jordan, Bird, Magic, and on and on got into fights on the court where punches were thrown.
I'm not condoning fighting and throwing punches, but this is a non issue to me. DSR is a great kid by all accounts.
Tweeted last nightQuote:
INBRecruits D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera will sit out of North Central's game Saturday against Pike per a source with team. No others received suspensions
@KyleNeddenriep: Central Florida commit Mike Chandler has withdrawn from school @ Lawrence North,per AD Grant Nesbit
The more I hear, the more I am glad Xavier is no longer involved with this kid.
I'm also glad we cut ties with this kid. He and his crew are nothing but trouble.
Yea, I'd be surprised if didn't end up becoming just another great talent who doesn't make it because of the other circumstances.
Related:
BSnowScout Brian Snow Now that Mike Chandler has withdrawn from LN, the real question is which of the schools he committed to will Jack Keefer blast on the radio?
I do. Everyone knows you can't throw a punch. If you feel you have no choice but to leave the bench, then you go get your guy. You don't escalate the issue with roundhouses. It's not "holier than thou." It's judgment. And it's important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juice
http://www.indystar.com/article/2011...sey=nav%7CheadQuote:
Originally Posted by Masterofreality
I find this hard to blame or judge Chandler from. Keefer has kids (especially high level prospects, often some with questionable eligibility) leave his program often. If I am not mistaken, Justin Martin also left Lawrence North. I have heard that LN is easy to qualify for because they do not have a minimum GPA requirement. Kids often leave so they can go somewhere and get their stuff in order to qualify for college.
I just wonder if this is the case of Chandler gaining another blemish or its just another kid trying to get out of Lawrence North to better his chances for college.
I'd be more inclined to agree with you if not for the timing of the withdrawal. If he was leaving to get academics in order, it would make more sense to do so at the beginning of a semester, not two months before he is supposed to graduate. Of course, for all I know LN or the school he is transferring to operates on quarters or the high school equivalent. Still, given his history, I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleD86
My guess is there was no way he was going to pass some or any of his classes. If that's the case, he could take a "W" or course withdrawal rather than an "F" ,which would further kill his GPA, and repeat the classes somewhere else. Looks like he will have to repeat the whole year at least. I don't know if you can go to college on a GED, but sounds like he isn't smart enough to pass that.
How do you change high schools and graduate with a month to go? Guess things have changed since this old man was in school:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sport...,3442152.story
At St. X from time to time, we had some kid who screwed up with a month or two to go and would get kicked out. He would then go to his local public high school and get his diploma. It happens but it doesn't change the fact that Michael Chandler is still an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
OK, so I assume LN told him he wasn't going to graduate so he can just transfer over to Dumbbell High? Meanwhile, Lyons and Martin have to sit for a year. What a system.
Kid from my senior class dropped out t the beginning of the second semester of his senior year after failing three classes in the fall. managed to transfer to another Catholic school and graduate.
I'm sure there is now a wing of the school bearing his dad's name.Quote:
Originally Posted by DC Muskie
There is an article in the NYT discussing potential NCAA violations at UCF. Check out the XH 's twitter account for the link.
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ESPN article about UCF recruiting, with quotes from Mack about Chandler's recruitment as well:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6453617