It doesn't, but whatever you want to call it, I appreciate getting something for our efforts. We should have taken some of the oil in Iraq, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
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It doesn't, but whatever you want to call it, I appreciate getting something for our efforts. We should have taken some of the oil in Iraq, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
What are the U.S. interests in Ukraine?Quote:
Originally Posted by hoopster68
Strengthens nato, strengthens industrial base in Europe, weakens an enemy. If you want to give the perception of being weak to Russia, and in turn china, the assholes in the Middle East, and North Korea, be my guest. But it’s ignorant.
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Originally Posted by Xville
How does it strengthen NATO? Ukraine is meant to be a buffer between NATO and Russia. I’m not sure the Euros see Russia as an enemy as they buy energy from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
I don’t think brokering a peace deal is weakness especially as the Euros and China aren’t at the table.
However, if you think continuing a stalemate/war of attrition which Ukraine ultimately loses (they will as the are already out of military age soldiers) and costs the US billions is a good strategy, well you can have that opinion.
How will the Democratic Party survive?
* Their polling is absolutely atrocious right now - much of America hates them
* Their donors are abandoning them
* Their base is devolving into civil war
* They're on the wrong side of numerous 60-40 / 70-30 issues, but continue to double down against the will of the American people
* Everyday DOGE is exposing massive corruption, which in-turn is drying up a major source of revenue for the Dems
* The loons on the left continue to pull the strings within the party, which means the Dems will be unable to course-correct at anytime in the near future
Tell me what you think peace looks like to Ukraine that is acceptable? Then, how “peace” wouldn’t look weak. The only way Russia accepts “peace” is if they get what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Euros and china are on the table by extension. How those dots aren’t connected, is an interesting take. Everyone, friends and enemies are watching.
Do you honestly believe in your gut that this is where Russia just stops? They get what they want and all is well?
Of course no one has all the answers, but for certain people to imply that we shouldn’t be concerned with Russia? I’d be concerned that their synapses aren’t firing.
They can have Eastern Ukraine which is primarily ethnic Russian. They can’t have Odessa or Kiev.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
Then, start flooding Europe with US LNG to make Russia poorer while enjoying our new mineral rights in Ukraine. Nothing weak about that.
Sounds simple except that you can’t trust Russia to just accept this and not pursue other opportunities. Not as long as Putin is in powerQuote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
So what is the alternative? A continued bloodbath that ends with Russia eventually taking the whole country. The mistake was the change in US energy policy that gave Russia the ability to arm itself again. That genie is out of the bottle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville