Xavier Head Coaching Search 2025

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Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z

Except this. I totally disagree with this take, ESPECIALLY for year 2.

Do not let whoever the new coach is off the hook for two years.

This is a new era and X has the resources to field competitive teams (even completely new ones) in Year 1. I'm not saying that guarantees tourney year 1, but we should not go in (and neither should the next coach or the administration) expecting next year to be toast. Bullshit.

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You should accept this reality.

1). We only had 3 decent returners already. 1 is gone. Conwell probably will be too. That leaves Traore, who none of us has seen play.

2). I wouldn’t expect our incoming freshmen to come.

3) fringe guys like Anderson, Hugley and Fletcher probably aren’t the answer even if they stay

4). ALL rosters will be losing not only their seniors, but any 5th year Covid guys as well.

There already aren’t enough transfer to fill all the open spots this year. You will end up seeing a lot of marginal freshmen D2 guys just filling out rosters next year.

If you are a decent transfer next year is the ULTIMATE sellers market. NIL prices will skyrocket as teams pay up to get the limited talent.

We’re gonna need 10 or more guys. This is not the year to be in this spot. This is a 2-3 year rebuild folks.

miller went for it this year and left is holding the bag

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Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z

Agree to disagree.

1. We were going to have AT LEAST 5 new rotational players next year anyway. At a minimum. If the new coach plays 8 guys next year that’s only a 3 player difference.

2. I expect the new coach will bring at least 2 players (the best 2) from their last team.

3. Every team every year is going to take time to gel. No different here. Yes it’s more of a challenge but X will be paying a nice chunk of change to the coach to get it done and to the players to bring in capable guys.

I don’t expect miracles in year 1. But I expect a competitive team that is entertaining to watch.

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Agreed. If it was 5-6 years ago. Yeah I’d give our new coach some time. Not in this world, sorry. You get two years max, and there better be some good signs in year one. Yes x isn’t Arkansas, Louisville or byu in terms of pockets, but we aren’t lasalle either. X has the nil resources to put at worst a middle of the road big East team which honestly that’s what we were this past year.

Don’t let these snake oil salesman off the hook. They are getting paid a shit ton of money to produce results. Don’t give me this Kenny Payne “this is actually year zero” bullshit. Give me the pat kelsey we are going to fucking win here and now attitude.

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Originally Posted by MHettel

You should accept this reality.

1). We only had 3 decent returners already. 1 is gone. Conwell probably will be too. That leaves Traore, who none of us has seen play.

2). I wouldn’t expect our incoming freshmen to come.

3) fringe guys like Anderson, Hugley and Fletcher probably aren’t the answer even if they stay

4). ALL rosters will be losing not only their seniors, but any 5th year Covid guys as well.

There already aren’t enough transfer to fill all the open spots this year. You will end up seeing a lot of marginal freshmen D2 guys just filling out rosters next year.

If you are a decent transfer next year is the ULTIMATE sellers market. NIL prices will skyrocket as teams pay up to get the limited talent.

We’re gonna need 10 or more guys. This is not the year to be in this spot. This is a 2-3 year rebuild folks.

miller went for it this year and left is holding the bag

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I sadly have to agree. We are going to have to bring in 10+ new faces next season and it will be difficult for us to get talent needed when we are getting a late start in the process. Have a feeling we will be fighting not to be the worst team in the Big East next season. Major rebuild which will take multiple years to complete.

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Originally Posted by xuphan

I sadly have to agree. We are going to have to bring in 10+ new faces next season and it will be difficult for us to get talent needed when we are getting a late start in the process. Have a feeling we will be fighting not to be the worst team in the Big East next season. Major rebuild which will take multiple years to complete.

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There is no longer a multi year rebuild. You can’t hold players anymore. All teams must win now until the unlimited free agency model ends.

This year is a harbinger of the future of college basketball: Seven Sweet 16 teams are from the SEC, four from the Big Ten, four from the Big 12, and one from the ACC, while the remaining 31 conferences—including the Big East—were completely shut out. With the top conferences hoarding talent, resources, and NIL advantages, for the rest of the teams, reaching the field of 32 is akin to making the Final Four.

What happened to the "Miller's wife will never go to Texas, she doesn't want to move again, she'll divorce him"?

Also, if it's Mack, how about a HUGE buyout, so if he leaves in a couple years we've got some NIL $ for it.

The other thing the SEC and B1G will have besides talent is greater continuity. Which likely means better results in Nov/Dec.

Always have been against tournament expansion, and not sure what's best, but it might be necessary.

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Originally Posted by xukeith

X can do better than Mack.

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Agreed. It’s the easy hire, but is it the right hire? Will he use X to wash off some of the stink from his time at Louisville and then bolt for more NIL money elsewhere?


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Originally Posted by MHettel

You should accept this reality.

1). We only had 3 decent returners already. 1 is gone. Conwell probably will be too. That leaves Traore, who none of us has seen play.

2). I wouldn’t expect our incoming freshmen to come.

3) fringe guys like Anderson, Hugley and Fletcher probably aren’t the answer even if they stay

4). ALL rosters will be losing not only their seniors, but any 5th year Covid guys as well.

There already aren’t enough transfer to fill all the open spots this year. You will end up seeing a lot of marginal freshmen D2 guys just filling out rosters next year.

If you are a decent transfer next year is the ULTIMATE sellers market. NIL prices will skyrocket as teams pay up to get the limited talent.

We’re gonna need 10 or more guys. This is not the year to be in this spot. This is a 2-3 year rebuild folks.

miller went for it this year and left is holding the bag

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Disagree and I think my other post makes my points.

500 guys entered the portal day 1.

There are 79 Power 5 teams.

Thats 6.3 guys per team on Day 1.

Lets say X's program is in the top half (so top 40 in the country essentially). There will be plenty of players for X to grab. Literally I have zero worry whatsoever of our new coach putting together capable roster next year. NONE.

And we will not be filling out any of our roster with D2 players, unless they are quality like Hankins.

My biggest worry is just GC hiring the right coach.

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Originally Posted by xuphan

Major rebuild which will take multiple years to complete.

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Just flat out wrong, I promise you. I cannot wait to revisit this thread (assuming the hire is Mack, or another capable (non assistant) coach).