Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

Also, the large population should be an advantage for the US. The more people that are insured lowers total cost.

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In free market, yes...In single payer healthcare that the government controls, that's not the case

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Originally Posted by Xville

In free market, yes...In single payer healthcare that the government controls, that's not the case

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Why? And also why not in government run plans like medicare?

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Originally Posted by bigdiggins

If people need a 6-7 year loan they are purchasing a car they quite simply can't afford. Encourage those in your circle to attend Financial Peace. Buy a used car in the price range you can afford. Oh the horror of not having a bumper to bumper warranty for five years on a brand new minivan with wifi in it. I spent a weekend this summer putting a new suspension on our 10 year old SUV. I'm an accountant not a mechanic; I looked how to do it on you tube. Cost less than half the dealer quote. It's not my responsibility for the people in your circle to live the lifestyle they want now, and to save enough for retirement. It's their responsibility to figure out what is truly important to them and make choices.

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Amen!!!!!

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Originally Posted by bigdiggins

If people need a 6-7 year loan they are purchasing a car they quite simply can't afford. Encourage those in your circle to attend Financial Peace. Buy a used car in the price range you can afford. Oh the horror of not having a bumper to bumper warranty for five years on a brand new minivan with wifi in it. I spent a weekend this summer putting a new suspension on our 10 year old SUV. I'm an accountant not a mechanic; I looked how to do it on you tube. Cost less than half the dealer quote. It's not my responsibility for the people in your circle to live the lifestyle they want now, and to save enough for retirement. It's their responsibility to figure out what is truly important to them and make choices.

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Flew right past my point. Costs are rising at a rate higher than wages causing things like I mentioned to occur. Homes and cars are normally our biggest debts. I remember you could get a 3 year loan. Those are gone and not because people like me don’t want them, it because most people can’t. I am 42 and I believe I will see a 40 year note on a house on the bond market.


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Originally Posted by Caf

Why? And also why not in government run plans like medicare?

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Are you serious? It's the same pool of money. If anything prices increase due to rise in population because (I'm going to let you in on a dirty little secret) not everyone pays taxes.

Healthcare, consider Europe as a whole has single payer. They also have 750M people. They make it work by eliminating the profit motive and by Xville’s desire they are. It government run. Britain being the exception.


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Originally Posted by Xville

Are you serious? It's the same pool of money.

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and where does that money come from?

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Originally Posted by Xville

Are you serious? It's the same pool of money. If anything prices increase due to rise in population because (I'm going to let you in on a dirty little secret) not everyone pays taxes.

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Prices of what increase? Care? Drugs?

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Originally Posted by Caf

and where does that money come from?

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Taxes, which again as I pointed out not everyone in this country pays...so if you are going to give "free" healthcare to everyone, it only makes sense that the more population, the more costs associated.

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Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad

Healthcare, consider Europe as a whole has single payer. They also have 750M people. They make it work by eliminating the profit motive and by Xville’s desire they are. It government run. Britain being the exception.


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Except that all of Europe isn't single payer so...there's that. More don't have single payer that do.