Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by Xville

What I am seeing is Republicans outside of Trump toning down the rhetoric and speaking on policy. With that, I feel better about the direction of the RNC once Trump goes away. Vance is a bit annoying, but I am starting to get on the Vivek train and some of the other up and comers in the party. I think once Trump is done, the rhetoric from the party will be toned down and much more palatable. It makes me a lot more comfortable to vote for Trump, even though I think he's a gross human being...I think our checks and balances will be fine with another 4 years of him.

On the opposite direction, the rhetoric from the left has been turned up a notch to the point of ridiculousness. The only leaders I see are Shapiro and Beshear who have mostly stayed away from it, and I don't see the DNC nominating folks like this, because these two aren't nuts enough about far left policy.

Anyways, all this is to say I think my feelings of those of a moderate republican, are that of quite a lot of people with the betting markets reflecting it.

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I could tolerate Vivik during his campaign but the way he is salivating all over Trump since dropping out has a lot to be desired and makes one question his morals. Same with Nikki Haley to be honest as well. I have tried to make peace with voting for either candidate but have come to the conclusion that neither candidate is fit to run for president. Since 2000, we have been through Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden. Both parties have had their time in the sunshine and have failed. Will be interesting to see who the moderates feel is less destructive to the country.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Here's the video. You decide.

https://youtu.be/F54hZP_rWiU?si=ybXWwzFvGRY114IG

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Yeah, he said the only garbage he sees out there are Trump supporters. Maybe that isn't what he meant to say, but that's what he actually said. To try and argue that's not what he said makes about as much sense as trying to argue that his tie is green.

And, even if he hadn't said it, this video is so unimpressive in its delivery that if a first year college student put this on Youtube and submitted it as an assignment for their speech class, they'd have failed the assignment. Good LORD!!

But...you know what?? It doesn't matter. Almost no one will vote any differently today than they would have a month ago. Or, two months ago. The election could have been in September and the results would have bene exactly the same as what they would have been next week. Perhaps some of this stuff will encourage first time voters or people who otherwise would not have voted to get out and vote, but almost no one has switched sides, and short of laying out a 'Scorched Earth' sort of plan that involves just nuking the entire country if they're elected to office, no one is going to switch sides. It is what it is at this point.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Jesus, the job of writing Biden's transcripts must be one of the more impossible jobs out there. Luckily, 100% accuracy is not required.

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LOl...exactly. "Let's throw an apostrophe in there to see if we can create some possession versus a flat insult' It's a tough ask for sure..

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Originally Posted by xubrew

But...you know what?? It doesn't matter.

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I think it matters....but only a little bit. Like everything at this point. There are people out there still undecided. I suspect mostly people who have crossed off one of the two candidates but are undecided whether to vote at all. Those are the people you're trying to get at this point. And Harris had some gold from Hinchcliff with the PR garbage to get momentum moving in her direction, and it was probably working to some extent. But she only got 36 hours, because dissecting the Biden video/quote is going to dominate the next 24-36 hour news cycle. So maybe Harris picked up some disaffected Puerto Ricans in swing states Sunday/Monday. And now Trump is probably picking up some Republicans in swing states who really don't like him yesterday/today.

And now we wait for the next big unforced error.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I think it matters....but only a little bit. Like everything at this point. There are people out there still undecided. I suspect mostly people who have crossed off one of the two candidates but are undecided whether to vote at all. Those are the people you're trying to get at this point. And Harris had some gold from Hinchcliff with the PR garbage to get momentum moving in her direction, and it was probably working to some extent. But she only got 36 hours, because dissecting the Biden video/quote is going to dominate the next 24-36 hour news cycle. So maybe Harris picked up some disaffected Puerto Ricans in swing states Sunday/Monday. And now Trump is probably picking up some Republicans in swing states who really don't like him yesterday/today.

And now we wait for the next big unforced error.

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Will probably happen today I would imagine.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Here's the transcript. See how you put a "period" in the sentence that wasn't there?

It seems like he's referring to the supporters' language, not the supporters themselves.

Who knows for sure...but it makes great fodder for the grist mill and to raise money.
(And deflect from the MSG rally.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbGUSRlX...g&name=900x900

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When you have to explain away his statement it’s like explaining a joke. It just falls flat. It’s ok you can admit he said something extremely stupid and btw he’s presumably still the president.

It’s like explaining away the process by which the dems nominated the lowest iq candidate we have ever seen.

I hate to even bring up this issue that is the third rail of American society, but I feel like I just need to bravely walk through this viper pit of a topic: if we eliminate moving clocks back and forth an hour twice a year, are you team permanent standard time or team permanent daylight time?

I've been more of a night owl, so I think I would have gone daylight for most of my years on earth. But as I've gotten older (and now that my baseball coaching days are over), I've begun to put more value on morning sun and less on late evening sun. I think I've switched to team permanent standard time. Does that officially make me an old man?

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I hate to even bring up this issue that is the third rail of American society, but I feel like I just need to bravely walk through this viper pit of a topic: if we eliminate moving clocks back and forth an hour twice a year, are you team permanent standard time or team permanent daylight time?

I've been more of a night owl, so I think I would have gone daylight for most of my years on earth. But as I've gotten older (and now that my baseball coaching days are over), I've begun to put more value on morning sun and less on late evening sun. I think I've switched to team permanent standard time. Does that officially make me an old man?

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I’m with you but my reasoning is a bit different. It’s really difficult to get younger kids to sleep during the summer weekdays when it doesn’t get dark until almost 10pm here. :)

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I hate to even bring up this issue that is the third rail of American society, but I feel like I just need to bravely walk through this viper pit of a topic: if we eliminate moving clocks back and forth an hour twice a year, are you team permanent standard time or team permanent daylight time?

I've been more of a night owl, so I think I would have gone daylight for most of my years on earth. But as I've gotten older (and now that my baseball coaching days are over), I've begun to put more value on morning sun and less on late evening sun. I think I've switched to team permanent standard time. Does that officially make me an old man?

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With having younger kids and bedtime routines, Standard time please! Curious which side the RNC and DNC stand for and when there will be a rally covering this issue.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I hate to even bring up this issue that is the third rail of American society, but I feel like I just need to bravely walk through this viper pit of a topic: if we eliminate moving clocks back and forth an hour twice a year, are you team permanent standard time or team permanent daylight time?

I've been more of a night owl, so I think I would have gone daylight for most of my years on earth. But as I've gotten older (and now that my baseball coaching days are over), I've begun to put more value on morning sun and less on late evening sun. I think I've switched to team permanent standard time. Does that officially make me an old man?

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I think turning the clocks back is one of the most insanely idiotic things we do. If you look at our entire history as a species, this perhaps tops the list of most stupid things ever. DO NOT TURN THE CLOCKS BACK!! I HATE when it's dark at 5pm!!!!!