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Originally Posted by 94GRAD

The people you really need to be scared of are in the shadows IE Kochs/Soros/etal. They are the ones pulling the strings!!! Look at all the influence they have on the Federal Judges, let alone the Supreme Court.

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You couldn't be more right. However, Soros and his son have a very different motivation and are literally dangerous. Typically this "Dark money" buys access/influence to achieve favorable policy for political and/or business reasons. The Soros' like to erode American values and create chaos. They are very active and deeply invested in radically subverting our CRIMINAL justice system.

https://www.mrc.org/sorosdocuments

Can we agree that the objective here is far more dangerous than buying a political favor or government contract? Low/no bonds and light sentencing for violent crime is getting people killed.

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Originally Posted by Xuperman

So, what exactly do you guys think one Justice could do for one guy?

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Swaying one vote could be a huge deal. Now, while Thomas taking gifts and travel from Crow certainly looks bad, I don't think anyone seriously believes Thomas changed his views because of gifts from Crow. The two were already ideologically aligned.

But the appearance of impropriety can be just as bad as actual impropriety.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Swaying one vote could be a huge deal. Now, while Thomas taking gifts and travel from Crow certainly looks bad, I don't think anyone seriously believes Thomas changed his views because of gifts from Crow. The two were already ideologically aligned.

But the appearance of impropriety can be just as bad as actual impropriety.

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Correct on everything. I would only add that a SC Justice is totally unique. How can one individual benefit from one favorable vote when it's uncertain if/when cases are heard? Wouldn't that individual need to influence more than one Justice?

And yet we’re to believe big tech isn’t biased. Of course, Amazon is now saying this was an error that has been corrected.

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1...ZFkQ7RbyDYbL8g


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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Swaying one vote could be a huge deal. Now, while Thomas taking gifts and travel from Crow certainly looks bad, I don't think anyone seriously believes Thomas changed his views because of gifts from Crow. The two were already ideologically aligned.

But the appearance of impropriety can be just as bad as actual impropriety.

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True and 2 million other federal workers would have been promptly canned.

Is it just me or is it kind of hilarious that waltz own family doesn’t even like him?

First rfk now walz

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Originally Posted by Xville

Is it just me or is it kind of hilarious that waltz own family doesn’t even like him?

First rfk now walz

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Trump needs to start an ad campaign highlighting this. You know the MSM will not mention it at all.


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Of course right wing influencers, sometimes noted in this thread, turn out to be paid through a Tennessee company, set up by Russians, to influence our elections for Trump and the Republicans.

https://fox59.com/news/politics/ap-p...ation-us-says/

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Originally Posted by paulxu

As to your perspective on him being a threat to democracy, the lawyers from Reagan and Bush White Houses, respected conservative jurists like Michael Luttig, and a host of people who worked closely with the former president think he's a threat, as I did a long time ago. You can go with the excuse that it's a false narrative; I'll stick with the facts as evidenced throughout the last 10 years. His comments on what he would do in the next four if elected bear this out.

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You're talking about facts? There are no facts that say he's a threat to our democracy..it's ALL conjecture and what if's.

It's very telling how you refuse to address the checks and balances we have in place and continually refer back to the opinions of journalists and ex-staffers.
Personally, I'll rely on the framework of our government, our laws, and centuries of history that will show that one man cannot threaten our system of governance. You can feel free to continue to be frightened by Trump's rhetoric, while disregarding the measures we have had in place for centuries that have prevented what you actually fear.

I see these checks and balances crumbling, with a handpicked supreme court granting the executive far more power than envisioned by the framers.
And when a wanna be dictator gets them, we are in danger.
I'm just a retired citizen with these concerns. Why should you worry about my concerns.
You should worry about the people with far more knowledge of the danger he possesses, and when they say he's a threat, perhaps you should listen.
Many of them have no future in politics, or gain anything from their position. They care about our country. So do I.