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Originally Posted by X-band '01

Here's the thing. There have been eight people kicked out of the Tennessee legislature. 6 were ex-Confederates who did not want to recognize the citizenship of former slaves. One had accepted bribes. Another had been kicked out for sexually-related crimes. Not quite the same thing here. You can always censure or remove committee assignments here.

Now the GOP has the optics of kicking out a couple of people who happen to be a) Gen-Z and b) Black. (There was another representative who happened to be white, female and over 60 who narrowly missed expulsion by a single vote.) What happens if in, say Illinois or California, some supermajority Democrats decide that a Republican or two fractured a rule or two and decide to kick them out of their state legislature in retaliation? It's a terrible precedent and was absolutely unnecessary. Voters in Tennessee and other states will punish the GOP for stunts like this.

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Is anyone really surprised by this though? The Republican and Democratic Super Unions have allowed this to get to this point. Never taking accountability and always blaming the other side. Seems like we are the divided states of America instead of the United States of America. You have to wonder how this drama will end. Can these politicians start putting their constituents and country ahead of their political parties or are we heading towards another civil war? Scary times in this country.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

So, when a transgender crazy does the shooting of Children in a school,we blame the gun and the Tennessee legislature? Blame the object rather than the perpetrator- like the car was blamed in the Waukesha parade murders. But when a right wing crazy does it, it is due to him & his ideology?? Can’t have it both ways. Go fuck that sideways.
By the way. The Nashville shooter was pretty effective with rifles and handguns. Not an AR-15 or “assault weapon” to be found.
Hey, I’m not a gun honk, but that is 100%

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Pretty sure in everyone of these shootings people have called for more gun control, as the easy access to fire arms seems to be the one constant.

Also, an AR-15 was used in this shooting along with 2 9mm with one modified with an extended 16 inch barrel. All of the guns were purchased and owned legally.

Edit: Found an updated source. Guns have been more properly identified as a Keltc Sub2000 (a foldable semi automatic rifle) and a Grunt .300 Blackout Rifle (which is similar to an AR 15).

https://media.keltecweapons.com/wp-c...-right-1-1.jpg
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-czr7...995618.jpg?c=2

Perhaps this is the reason one of the protesting legislators survived the expulsion vote:

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After the vote that allowed Johnson to remain in the House, reporters asked why she thought she was spared after Jones was ousted. Johnson, who is White, responded: “It might have to do with the color of our skin.” Jones is of Black and Filipino descent, and Pearson is Black.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ats-expulsion/

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"I refuse to apologize," Rep. Gloria Johnson, D-Knoxville, told NewsChannel 5 Investigates. "I want to be heard. I want to defend myself. I want to tell the people of this state what happened and why."

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https://www.newschannel5.com/news/ne...ns-bring-it-on

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Originally Posted by X-band '01

Here's the thing. There have been eight people kicked out of the Tennessee legislature. 6 were ex-Confederates who did not want to recognize the citizenship of former slaves. One had accepted bribes. Another had been kicked out for sexually-related crimes. Not quite the same thing here. You can always censure or remove committee assignments here.

Now the GOP has the optics of kicking out a couple of people who happen to be a) Gen-Z and b) Black. (There was another representative who happened to be white, female and over 60 who narrowly missed expulsion by a single vote.) What happens if in, say Illinois or California, some supermajority Democrats decide that a Republican or two fractured a rule or two and decide to kick them out of their state legislature in retaliation? It's a terrible precedent and was absolutely unnecessary. Voters in Tennessee and other states will punish the GOP for stunts like this.

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Stunt? Those legislators fomented a true INSURRECTION!!. You know, worse than that “some” here can’t stop wailing about. The woman you mentioned actually apologized and that is why she was allowed to stay.
Band, those people deserved to be kicked out. Just go back to the source of this whole thing, if you can.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Perhaps this is the reason one of the protesting legislators survived the expulsion vote:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ats-expulsion/



https://www.newschannel5.com/news/ne...ns-bring-it-on

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“Perhaps”. Paul throwing the racial Molotov Cocktail card in the mix with zero proof or evidence. When in doubt pull that card out right leftist?
There are 15 African Americans in the Tennessee legislature, 12 of them in the Tenn House. 2 got kicked out for this “Out of Order” “Insurrection”. Per CNN, Paul’s favorite news source:

“ The three lawmakers led a protest on the House floor last Thursday without being recognized, CNN affiliate WSMV reported, and used a bullhorn as demonstrators at the Capitol called on lawmakers to take action after the shooting at the Covenant School in Nashville left three 9-year-olds and three adults dead. Each lawmaker was removed from their committee assignments following last week’s demonstrations.

Each of the resolutions said the lawmakers “did knowingly and intentionally bring disorder and dishonor to the House of Representatives,” saying they “began shouting without recognition” and “proceeded to disrupt the proceedings of the House Representatives” for just under an hour Thursday morning.”

Sounds like a fireable offense to me.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

“Perhaps”. Paul throwing the racial Molotov Cocktail card in the mix with zero proof or evidence. When in doubt pull that card out right leftist?
There are 15 African Americans in the Tennessee legislature, 12 of them in the Tenn House. 2 got kicked out for this “Out of Order” “Insurrection”. Per CNN, Paul’s favorite news source:

“ The three lawmakers led a protest on the House floor last Thursday without being recognized, CNN affiliate WSMV reported, and used a bullhorn as demonstrators at the Capitol called on lawmakers to take action after the shooting at the Covenant School in Nashville left three 9-year-olds and three adults dead. Each lawmaker was removed from their committee assignments following last week’s demonstrations.

Each of the resolutions said the lawmakers “did knowingly and intentionally bring disorder and dishonor to the House of Representatives,” saying they “began shouting without recognition” and “proceeded to disrupt the proceedings of the House Representatives” for just under an hour Thursday morning.”

Sounds like a fireable offense to me.

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Just for fun for the people who post on this page, who would you take vote for to be the next president out of these candidates who will legally do things the right way?

Donald Trump

Joe Biden

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

George Santos

Marjorie Taylor Greene

Hillary Clinton

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Originally Posted by xuphan

Just for fun for the people who post on this page, who would you take vote for to be the next president out of these candidates?

Donald Trump

Joe Biden

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

George Santos

Marjorie Taylor Greene

Hillary Clinton

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None of the above.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

None of the above.

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You have to pick one buddy. Best options both the Democrats and Republicans can come up with. Who you taking to lead this country forward?

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

“Perhaps”. Paul throwing the racial Molotov Cocktail card in the mix with zero proof or evidence. When in doubt pull that card out right leftist?
There are 15 African Americans in the Tennessee legislature, 12 of them in the Tenn House. 2 got kicked out for this “Out of Order” “Insurrection”. Per CNN, Paul’s favorite news source:

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Typical; I made no comment at all about whether they should/should not be kicked out. I linked to a quote by the one who wasn't kicked out, who indicated she thought she was not kicked out because of skin color. That's not "Paul" saying that. It's the one who wasn't kicked out.

You suggested she wasn't kicked out because she "apologized", inferring the others might have stayed if they had apologized.
I linked to her direct quote saying she would NOT apologize.
So far haven't been able to find where she did, in fact, apologize.

Perhaps it was a "fireable" offense. It turned out that way for 2. The third indicated it was because of skin color that she was saved. Not "Paul."

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Typical; I made no comment at all about whether they should/should not be kicked out. I linked to a quote by the one who wasn't kicked out, who indicated she thought she was not kicked out because of skin color. That's not "Paul" saying that. It's the one who wasn't kicked out.

You suggested she wasn't kicked out because she "apologized", inferring the others might have stayed if they had apologized.
I linked to her direct quote saying she would NOT apologize.
So far haven't been able to find where she did, in fact, apologize.

Perhaps it was a "fireable" offense. It turned out that way for 2. The third indicated it was because of skin color that she was saved. Not "Paul."

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But….you repeated it as if it was fact and true with zero evidence.
Pretty Conspiratorial to me. Just throw that card out there leftys unless it doesn’t fit your narrative- like Waukesha.