Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by STL_XUfan

This is the biggest strawman argument I have ever seen. We cannot get states to accept federal grant money to expand Medicaid, and you think there is an appetite on the right side to spend significant money on taking care of mental health. If there is, I am sure you will have no issue gathering up the votes on the left to get it passed.

As to the "guns and crazy people" aren't going away comment, our legislatures could certainly do something to greatly restrict the two from mixing. Instead, we have strapped on our idiot helmets and went full on the other way with states passing dumb ass shit like constitutional carry. We don't live in the wild west, you have no reason to carry your gun with you. Doing so will only ever escalate a situation not deescalate it. But by all means, look like Johnny bad ass strapped down with your AR15 getting a cup of coffee.

None of this matters. Nothing will change. Kids will continue to die. This is just our reality and at this point I see no hope in it ever changing.

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Well, there was. However we got rid of the institutions.

Today will be national "Do Something" Day from people who have no idea what they're talking about and no interest in learning enough to have an educated conversation about guns and potential regulation. Just DO SOMETHING!!!#@#$#!!!#@#$#@!!!

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Also true.

Paul must’ve received his email this morning…

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And are these happening mainly in dem led cities? You can go on and on

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Today will be national "Do Something" Day from people who have no idea what they're talking about and no interest in learning enough to have an educated conversation about guns and potential regulation. Just DO SOMETHING!!!#@#$#!!!#@#$#@!!!

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Been that way for a while GO. Welcome to the party pal. :)

I’ll start the convo:

No handguns until 21 and long guns limited to .22s until such age. We’ve been prolonging childhood for a while.

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Originally Posted by xuwillie

And can we have number of incidents as well? You can hide a lot of bad things having a bigger population.

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A "number" per 100/000 for 2 different states is hiding some bad thing by having a bigger population in one state.

Really.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

A "number" per 100/000 for 2 different states is hiding some bad thing by having a bigger population in one state.

Really.

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Yes. There have been 3,100 gun deaths in CA this year and 1,200 in TN.

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Originally Posted by xuwillie

Yes. There have been 3,100 gun deaths in CA this year and 1,200 in TN.

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Haha!

Statistics course at Xavier may need some upgrading.

"Honey, we're moving. You want to go to the state with a greater chance of getting shot, or a lesser chance of getting shot?"

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Originally Posted by STL_XUfan

This is the biggest strawman argument I have ever seen. We cannot get states to accept federal grant money to expand Medicaid, and you think there is an appetite on the right side to spend significant money on taking care of mental health.

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Straw man? Huh. YOUR side were in control of all 3 branches of Government for 2 whole years. Your side did nothing but try to pass trash that spent Billions of dollars to “solve” an alleged problem that is not a verified problem and is decades away from happening rather than passing legislation to fund mental health more effectively. It absolutely has not been a priority when the Dems had control but they like to keep yelling about “Gun Control” which is not the problem at all.
Plus Biden wants to waste more Federal dollars on paying off College loans. It’s unconstitutional, but see the problem with misplaced priorities??
Don’t blame the States. Your side had control of the Purse but took your eye off the ball for cheap votes.
Non Sequitur , but By the way. When is Fetterman actually going to cast a vote and serve as a Senator? What a disgusting sham and an injustice to him by being thrown into a race. Evil.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Today will be national "Do Something" Day from people who have no idea what they're talking about and no interest in learning enough to have an educated conversation about guns and potential regulation. Just DO SOMETHING!!!#@#$#!!!#@#$#@!!!

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A gun by itself will not kill someone. There are a lot of factors that go into someone purposely aiming a firearm at someone and pulling the trigger with the intent to kill them. That action is lead in my opinion by a series of societal issues that is plaguing our country and continues to plague our country. Decline in Mental health, broken homes, loss of community plays a big factor but there are also other factors as well. There isn’t a fear of punishment from people who commit these acts. Young people are desensitized by guns and violence from everything from video games, music, and movies. This only gets better if we start to tackle mental health and start holding parents responsible for raising young people to become productive members of society.

This is a failure by both the Democratic and Republican Party. Gun control doesn’t attempt to fix the issues with the person pulling the trigger. All it does is try to have them pull the trigger on less powerful guns. Giving everyone a gun and turning it into the wild west doesn’t fix the issues with the person pulling the trigger. At best it is a scare tactic but these individuals don’t care and are not scared to be shot. Both parties need to work together to tackle the big issues at hand which is mental health and hold parents responsible for their young people.