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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Even the Washington Post finally admits the truth…….after SIX years!

Talk about “Disinformation”.

Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e-2016-voters/

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I wonder if he's noticed the pattern yet?

So what happened to Paul? He's MIA again. I guess the incoming got a little too hot today, so he cut and ran....

Maybe he's still combing thru Trump's Schedule C hoping to find a Russian connection!!

Or maybe he and his "Nut Job" friends on the left are waiting for the next wacko conspiracy to circle jerk on....

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Originally Posted by XUWahoo

Lesson #1-Not an election denier but do believe there were enough irregularities in the 2020 election to raise some suspicion in certain states. As a Democrat, sounds like you are "all in" for the tools of voter fraud:1) No voter ID, 2) Widespread mail-in voting (which is NOT exactly the same as absentee voting), and 3) Ballot harvesting. Most European countries do not allow mail-in voting because they know it is a main pathway to voter fraud. The Democrats in Pennsylvania illegally expanded mail-in voting in 2020, which went against the state constitution, and the state Supreme Court there recently ruled as such.

Lesson#2- If Jan. 6th was an "insurrection" as you Democrats like to call it, it had to be the worst planned insurrection in history. Usually, insurrectionists are ARMED and the vast majority of the rioters did not have firearms. The only person to be killed in the riot was an UNARMED white female gunned down by a black Capitol cop who should have been fired from the force long ago for past rules violations but because it didn't fit the Democrat narrative, all of the elements of the murder were kept under wraps for months except the name of the victim. I never agreed with the Jan. 6th riot, but if you Democrats (and they are the only ones doing this along with the corrupt and extremely biased liberal lame stream media) want to call it an "insurrection," then all of the "protests" over the George Floyd killing (which went on for months, involved the murders of many innocent people, and caused millions of dollars in property damage) were "insurrections," defined as "a violent uprising against an authority or government," Certainly, the attack on the Federal Courthouse in Portland in which the George Floyd rioters set fire to the building would easily qualify as an "insurrection" except by word-game playing Democrats. If Jan. 6th was an "insurrection," then lots of Capitol Police were accessories as they let in and held the doors open at many entrances for the rioters/protestors to go into the Capitol. Lastly, just because some defendants pled guilty doesn't mean justice was done. Many of them just didn't have the financial resources to fight the charges versus the UNLIMITED financial resources of the U.S. government. And besides, Republicans/conservative rarely get a fair trial in the Democrat run kangaroo courts of Washington, DC, while Democrat defendants routinely get passes. Furthermore, why won't the corrupt Democrat hack-run Fascist Bureau of Instigation release ALL of the video from the Jan. 6th riot???? What do they have to hide? Why no further word on any investigation of the person who planted pipe bombs? Perhaps another FBI agent in disguise?? I noticed that you pulled one phrase from my original post which mostly had to do with the Democrat run Jan. 6 Committee, which conducted a sham investigation allowing NO cross examination of any "witnesses," releasing the Social Security numbers of many Trump officials and "supporters," so it appears that you are "all in" with such doxing which is a typical leftist tactic. Many of the unjustly released SSN's were those of Republican governors and their families whom were nowhere near the Capitol on Jan. 6th, but that's apparently OK with you too.

Lesson#3-Your party is led by a bunch of woke wacko kooks:
The "Squad" members- anti-Semites
VP Kamala Harris- doesn't even know the difference between North and South Korea
Adam Schiff- world class pathological liar (we're still waiting on that huge "evidence" that Trump colluded with the Russians which Schiff claims he has but NEVER produced and actually NEVER had)
Joe Biden - another world class pathological liar who's not really governing but has an UNELECTED committee of Democrat handlers who are. It's amazing that naive and clueless Democrat voters would elect such a bumbling idiot who doesn't even know where he is half the time, but that's what Democrats do because it's all about party and not country.
I could fill pages and pages on this thread of the woke wacko kooks in the Democrat Party.

And BTW, I am a registered Independent and not a hard core Trump supporter.

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Wow. What an amazing and accurate Manifesto as well as being fact filled and accurate.
Well done Sir!
And as an adjunct, despite what “some” think on here, I, too am a registered Independent and didn’t vote for Trump either time.
NO ONE should ever allow themselves to be beholden to straight ticket party politics.
You can see what single party rule is doing to Illinois and Chicago. And none of it is good.

Wall Street Journal:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/leaving...ln-11673296644

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Wow. What an amazing and accurate Manifesto as well as being fact filled and accurate.
Well done Sir!
And as an adjunct, despite what “some” think on here, I, too am a registered Independent and didn’t vote for Trump either time.
NO ONE should ever allow themselves to be beholden to straight ticket party politics.
You can see what single party rule is doing to Illinois and Chicago. And none of it is good.

Wall Street Journal:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/leaving...ln-11673296644

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Ok, then what policies do you side with that are opposite of the Republican Party?

Interesting about Twitter which may not have been as big back in 2016.

But, from the Post article linked above, the following was also noted:

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It doesn’t examine other social media, like the much-larger Facebook.
Nor does it address Russian hack-and-leak operations. Another major study in 2018 by University of Pennsylvania communications professor Kathleen Hall Jamieson suggested those probably played a significant role in the 2016 race’s outcome.
Lastly, it doesn’t suggest that foreign influence operations aren’t a threat at all.

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The Russian concentration was on Facebook and social interactions to spread misinformation, for which the IRA folks were indicted.
As noted by the same Washington Post;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...by-importance/

Sometimes it helps to read the whole article.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Interesting about Twitter which may not have been as big back in 2016.

But, from the Post article linked above, the following was also noted:



The Russian concentration was on Facebook and social interactions to spread misinformation, for which the IRA folks were indicted.
As noted by the same Washington Post;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...by-importance/

Sometimes it helps to read the whole article.

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It helps for you to understand that $46,000 of Russian troll farm ads on Facebook vs $81 MILLION that Clinton & Trump spent had zero effect on the 2016 election. And much of the American populace isn’t even on Facebook. In 2016, there were less than 190 million Facebook users (some not of voting age) vs a US population of 331 million.
You can read THIS whole article. Sometimes it helps to paint the whole picture and not jut pick & choose what you want.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/01/ru...book-ad-spend/

https://www.statista.com/topics/5323...#topicOverview

You should read the whole articles you post, and not just note the headline.
If you did that for the Post article you would have seen what I noted.

On this latest article, which I read the entire article, I noted this:

[Update: However, since the IRA was using incendiary, divisive, eye-drawing content about polarizing issues, it likely was able to squeeze more impressions and engagment out of each dollar of spend than Trump and Clinton’s ads driving awareness for the candidates That’s because Facebook’s ad auction system preferences engaging ads by providing lower rates. By focusing on hot-button issues and playing into people’s biases, the IRA’s ads got widely re-shared for free by viewers.]

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Stretch says that the IRA was attacking the election as early as 2015. But one major issue is that there could still be other unidentified Russian groups that also tried to interfere with the 2016 election.

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The Russians definitely interfered in the 2016 and 2020 elections, I think primarily to sow discontent in our faith in our own systems.
We help them in that effort with all the nonsense about fake news. day in and day out, or characterizing the press as "the enemy of the people."
Fascist state nonsense which I sure Russia and China love.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

You should read the whole articles you post, and not just note the headline.
If you did that for the Post article you would have seen what I noted.

On this latest article, which I read the entire article, I noted this:

[Update: However, since the IRA was using incendiary, divisive, eye-drawing content about polarizing issues, it likely was able to squeeze more impressions and engagment out of each dollar of spend than Trump and Clinton’s ads driving awareness for the candidates That’s because Facebook’s ad auction system preferences engaging ads by providing lower rates. By focusing on hot-button issues and playing into people’s biases, the IRA’s ads got widely re-shared for free by viewers.]

And this:


The Russians definitely interfered in the 2016 and 2020 elections, I think primarily to sow discontent in our faith in our own systems.
We help them in that effort with all the nonsense about fake news. day in and day out, or characterizing the press as "the enemy of the people."
Fascist state nonsense which I sure Russia and China love.

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Nice attempt by the Washington Post to return to its usual narrative after actually reporting on something.
$46,000, vs $81 million. “Widely shared” tells nothing because it’s speculative.
I read the whole article. I’ll let the board decide, not you, whether or not there was a significant effect.
Clinton lost because she couldn’t find a way to get to Wisconsin, not because of troll farm ads that were .005% of what the actual campaigns spent.
Glad your obsession keeps you active but find another hobby

Huh?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...nd-b-rcna65019

*Some on this Board: “Trump had docs at Mar-a-Lago. How irresponsible!”

Spoiler. They Both are. (But only one got raided)

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Originally Posted by paulxu

You should read the whole articles you post, and not just note the headline.
If you did that for the Post article you would have seen what I noted.

On this latest article, which I read the entire article, I noted this:

[Update: However, since the IRA was using incendiary, divisive, eye-drawing content about polarizing issues, it likely was able to squeeze more impressions and engagment out of each dollar of spend than Trump and Clinton’s ads driving awareness for the candidates That’s because Facebook’s ad auction system preferences engaging ads by providing lower rates. By focusing on hot-button issues and playing into people’s biases, the IRA’s ads got widely re-shared for free by viewers.]

And this:


The Russians definitely interfered in the 2016 and 2020 elections, I think primarily to sow discontent in our faith in our own systems.
We help them in that effort with all the nonsense about fake news. day in and day out, or characterizing the press as "the enemy of the people."
Fascist state nonsense which I sure Russia and China love.

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That’s a nice conspiracy theory ya got there Paul. Is WaPo wrapped in tin foil for home delivery?

Have no idea why Biden had top secret docs in his office.
Would have had to taken them from his time as VP to his private life from 16-20.
He should be held accountable for doing that.

Thankfully he didn't try to block returning them numerous times, go to court to slow down an investigation, etc.
It seems like his lawyers turned them over as soon as they were discovered, to the National Archives.

But Biden should answer why he took them when he left office.