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Originally Posted by paulxu

I think that's spread over a 10 year period to cover natural attrition, in addition to bolstering the audit staff.

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We don't really know that because the majority Democrat Congress rammed through a several thousand page bill without allowance for anyone to have the time to actually read it. Furthermore, regarding the funding of 87,000 IRS positions:

1. Everyone knows these additional IRS agents will be going after middle class taxpayers whom largely don't have the financial resources to fight the audits. The wealthy taxpayers use accountants and utilize the LAWFUL loopholes in minimizing the amounts of taxes they have to pay.
2. Since the Democrats have already weaponized the IRS, these new agents will be focusing their attention on conservative taxpayers and organizations and will give any Democrats a pass, just like the DOJ and the Fascist Bureau of Instigation have been doing for years.
3. Why would the IRS be arming any new agents (yes, that was listed at one time in their online job postings but has since been taken down. However, since the Biden regime is far from transparent and the criminal liberal media covers for them, we don't know if that's still is part of the job description)?
4. When Democrat Tim Ryan was running for the Senate, he claimed during a town hall that 44,000 IRS agents would be retiring as justification for funding 87,000 new positions. However, I have never heard nor read that from any other sources. Ryan never specified WHEN these 44,000 IRS agents would actually be retiring.

Maybe this will allay some of the conspiracy theories you noted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/06/u...act-check.html

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In other words, the funding will enable the I.R.S. to increase its work force over the next 10 years to 113,000 employees. That is about the same number of workers it employed annually in the early 1990s.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Maybe this will allay some of the conspiracy theories you noted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/06/u...act-check.html

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Hmm, but the US has been collecting record tax dollars since then. Maybe automation and efficiency has reduced the need for so many IRS workers.

It’s like saying, we’re returning the Pony Express to the same number of employees we had in the 19th C..,

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Didn't know I was in a race...but if they are delaying the replenishment I guess I must have "lost."

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Uh, we are all in a race, to save this country from Leftist and Progressive Bullshit. Uh, huh. Thankfully you and your lefty idiots lost the House so this garbage can stop.
But, as to this thread, you still can’t acknowledge that you lost the argument.
You will lose more.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Maybe this will allay some of the conspiracy theories you noted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/06/u...act-check.html

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Your link for the NYT article on the IRS is largely worthless for two reasons:

1. The NYT won't let you read the article unless you have a subscription.
2. Most of us don't feel the NYT has any credibility because they have been misinformational in the past, especially regarding Republican/conservative issues and topics (the exception might be sports) and everyone knows they are essentially a hack propaganda arm of the Democrat Party.

Your use of the phrase,"conspiracy theories," smacks of some snarkiness but perhaps you haven't heard yet about the collusion of the FBI and the White House with Twitter as outed lately by Musk, maybe because you rely too much on the NYT which would largely censor such a story passively by ignoring it. Also recall that Twitter colluded with the White House in suppressing the validated opinions of many academic physicians regarding the treatment of Covid and the marginal (at best) effectiveness of the vaccines which didn't fit the useful idiot narrative of Dr. "Phony Tony" Fauci and the corrupt CDC.

As for the NYT quote you provided regarding the funding of the new IRS agents, that still doesn't dispute what their biased mission would be in the points I raised.

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It's losing about 50,000 people over the next few years for attrition. And so the law calls for hiring about 87,000 people over 10 years. Many will replace people that are leaving.

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The rationale for the new funding is that the IRS's resources are so depleted that they need to be rebuilt. They're using computers from the early 1960s

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The treasury disputes this intensely; it says that no American earning less than $400,000 a year will stand a greater chance of audit.

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From interview with Wall Street Journal tax reporter:
https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/google-...1-a73966768fdd

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Uh, we are all in a race, to save this country from Leftist and Progressive Bullshit. Uh, huh. Thankfully you and your lefty idiots lost the House so this garbage can stop.
But, as to this thread, you still can’t acknowledge that you lost the argument.
You will lose more.

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MOR, if it makes you feel better, I'll say I lost "the argument." At this point not sure what the argument was.
Let's try and keep discussions from becoming personal this year, and stick to facts as best we can.

I think our country will lose a lot with the House leadership in disarray, and the major concessions McCarthy made to the freedom caucus.
I'll stick with Boehner's interpretation of that situation as he has years of experience dealing with it.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

From interview with Wall Street Journal tax reporter:
https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/google-...1-a73966768fdd

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So we haven’t been funding the IRS for all these years?

And the armed agent job description isn’t a conspiracy Paul.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

From interview with Wall Street Journal tax reporter:
https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/google-...1-a73966768fdd

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Yeah, sure, and bumbling Beijing Biden promised that "nobody making less than $400,000 would pay an additional penny in taxes" yet those in this group are in effect paying more "taxes" with "10% for the big guy" Biden's inflation.

Replacing IRS agents from attrition, much like the corrupt Fascist Bureau of Instigation, won't change the fact that they have been weaponized by the Biden regime and the Democrats against Republicans/conservatives.

Do you think the IRS doesn’t already have armed agents? I can very much assure you that they do.