Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by xudash

- Trump's tax plan isn't a trickle down proposition

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yep, it will cost us 9.25 trillion according to forbes. LeBron will save 15 million a yr. He should be happy. On the other hand, Trump could care less cuz he doesn't pay any.

Saying Trump and Putin just spoke for the first time is like saying you had your first beer at 21.

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Originally Posted by SemajParlor

Saying Trump and Putin just spoke for the first time is like saying you had your first beer at 21.

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Was it a 3.2 beer? There could be a gray area. (And some shitty beer.)

Obama: Trump's victory not my fault - The Hill

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Originally Posted by boozehound

I would agree, although it's tough to really nail down where he stands on anything since it seems to be subject to frequent and random change. I'm a little surprised at how fast he has abandoned some of the key (IMO ridiculous) rhetoric that helped him win the election. At the end of the day, I guess it's way more fun to engage in fantasy about Mexico paying for border walls and manufacturing jobs coming back to the rust belt on a massive scale than to have substantive discussions about complex issues.

It will be interesting to see what policies he supports now that he will be forced to deal with reality on reality's terms. The country's jobs issues aren't caused, or solved, by trade deals and tariffs. They are caused by globalization/mechanization and a mis-match between the skills of a large portion of American workers and the needs of our employers. He sold a lot of people on his ability to wave a magic wand and bring those jobs back through 'good negotiation'. I'm not sure that's possible, although I would love to be wrong about that.

The policy proposal of his that has me most worried is his tax plan. I don't really want to add trillions to our National Debt, even if it saves me some money now. I'm not sure what a Republican congress would do if faced with a President who wanted to slash taxes to historical lows. That could be a very difficult political issue if Congress Repubs are forced to vote against their President's tax plan, particularly when it would be a massive windfall in the short term for many people and businesses.



Man, you really bought into the Bannon / Trump rhetoric, huh?

What I find frightening is more the wholesale rejection of fact than anything else. Just because CNN reports a fact, doesn't make it any less true. If CNN were to report something that was incorrect or false I would be more understanding of your position. You still haven't really articulated any real stance on the potential conflict of interest. Are you saying that you are fine with the potential conflict of interest, but he will have to 'figure out his biz above board' only because of the unhinged leftist media?

You also may want to take "LOCK HER UP" out of your sig line now that Trump has essentially admitted that he has no intention of doing that, and never really did. It was a great tactic to get people fired up though, so who cares if it was a lie.

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My sig and avatar are in direct response to those censoring political thought; which was until recently accepted on this hoops board. It has no basis in what I think will happen. A wall of some sort will be built as the Congress and GWB approved it in 06. I think we're entering uncharted territory in terms of trade. I just hope Tump has the intelligence to reject Summers, Krugy and Romer when it comes to policy...

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

My sig and avatar are in direct response to those censoring political thought; which was until recently accepted on this hoops board. It has no basis in what I think will happen. A wall of some sort will be built as the Congress and GWB approved it in 06. I think we're entering uncharted territory in terms of trade. I just hope Tump has the intelligence to reject Summers, Krugy and Romer when it comes to policy...

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From what I understand, Trump functions on two main things: Loyalty, and whomever he talked to last.

I don't think this is going particularly well so far. It seems like he is using cabinet positions to rewards loyalists rather than appoint the best people for the job. Too much cronyism, and too many retreads (Gingrich, Bolton) It's also clear that these guys were as surprised as anybody else by the victory, and had given very little thought to cabinet selections and transition details.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...mepage%2Fstory

It also looks like his family is becoming increasingly intertwined with his White House, which is cause for some concern since they are supposed to be running his businesses and not talking to him about it. Even if he keeps Don, Eric, and Ivanka away from his White House once his term starts, Jared Kushner having a key role in his administration looks likely. Are we to believe that he and Ivanka won't talk shop? At least there's a great spousal privilege firewall if (when) legal issues arise associated with his businesses.

I'm very interested (in a morbid way) to see how this pans out. In my opinion, Donald Trump did not run on a conservative platform at all, which makes sense since he is not (IMHO) a conservative. It seems that he is as likely to grow government as he is to make it smaller. He is proposing massive public works projects with no plans to fund. He is against free trade. He is OK with growing the national debt. These are not conservative values. At some point there is going to have to be a showdown between Trump and actual Republicans.

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politi...rp_ids=1614278

Bill Gross: Trump Will Do Little for U.S. Workers - Barron's

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Originally Posted by Caf

Bill Gross: Trump Will Do Little for U.S. Workers - Barron's

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Side note: the story of Bill Gross's fall from grace at Pimco is amazing.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Side note: the story of Bill Gross's fall from grace at Pimco is amazing.

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The best story I've heard is that he had a policy which said colleagues couldn't look him in the eye.