Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

It's a problem everywhere:

https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-...murder-problem

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Is it a red state murder problem or a blue cith within red state murder problem? Would be interesting to do a heat map of the murders within those states.

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Originally Posted by Smails

Cori Bush- US Congresswoman - Missouri "Defunding the police isn't radical, it's real,"

Ilhan Omar- US Congresswoman, MN- The "defund the police" movement, is one of reimagining the current police system to build an entity that does not violate us, while relocating funds to invest in community services. Let’s be clear, the people who now oppose this, have always opposed calls for systematic change"

Jamall Bowman- US Congressman, NY "Too many police in our country are more concerned with protecting white supremacy than serving the communities that pay their salaries"

That took about a 2 minute google search. Are these members of the Democratic party not sane?

It's comical to hear people trying walk back a narrative that they thought was soooo progressive and cool when the anti-police mob was at its height of popularity. Now that we're in an election cycle Dems are running as fast as they can. "We're the party of law and order!!" Let's just act like defund the police, autonomous zones, BLM riots, blatant disregarding our immigration laws, and rampant crime in our largest dem-run cities never happened. Nothing to see here..move along.

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Omar barely won her primary - she'll win the general election given that her district is heavily Democratic, but there are no guarantees that she'll be able to continue getting elected in the future.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

People who want to allocate some part of the public safety budget of cities for programs that help people, aren't necessarily "defunding" the police.
They are seeking alternative approaches to reducing crime and improving public safety, often by adding dollars to the public safety budget.
Do you have some outliers? Sure, just look at wacky MTG. She doesn't represent the Republican party's approach to law and order with her Defund the FBI nonsense. There are certainly Dem outliers also.

But let's go scream all Dems want to defund the police. It's a good narrative, and keeps the base riled up.

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Outliers? Do you realize that 42% of polled democrats supported defunding the police in 2020. The sheep got all riled up in mob rule and supported something that has had terrible consequences. Fast forward to 2022 and they can't run away fast enough. Also in 2020 41% of democrats said that violent crime in our cities was a major concern. Fast forward to 2022 and that number sits at 61%. I wonder what has changed....hmmmm? Election cycle maybe? Spike in violent crime due to an anti-law enforcement narrative? Understaffed police departments due to massive resignations? All of the above?

What are your thoughts on the statements from Cori Bush, Omar and Jamall Bowman...do you consider them 'sane'?

The Big Lie lives on to disrupt our system:

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This November, a staggering 60 percent of American voters will have a candidate (for House, Senate, governor, secretary of state and/or attorney general) who refuses to accept the 2020 election outcome on their ballots, according to this alarming new analysis by FiveThirtyEight.

118 election deniers running for the House have at least a 95 chance of winning, per the analysis.
Only 30 percent of GOP nominees actually accept the 2020 election in some form (they either “fully accepted” it or “accepted with reservations”).
And only 74 Republican candidates out of the total 540 fully accept the election results.

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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...lection-fraud/

I am guessing that poll numbers would far exceed those, if Dems where ask if Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election from Clinton.

As a matter of fact, there are scores and scores of videos from Dems of ALL types screaming "Trump is an illegitimate President".

Actually, I don't think you could point to ONE major Democrat, that is on the record, saying Trump won fair and square.....not ONE!!!

Your Party is 100% consumed with blind hatred. That will/is going to disrupt our "System".

Trump has never won the popular vote. But despite concerns about outside influences in the 2016 election as noted by the Republican led intelligence committee, Clinton conceded to Trump and wished him well:

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Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country,” Clinton said. “I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans

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As did the Democratic Leader in the House

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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Wednesday congratulated Donald Trump on winning the presidency and said in a statement that she would “pray for his success.”

“The peaceful transfer of power is the cornerstone of our democracy,” Pelosi said.

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Would that the leaders of the Republican party were half as mature.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Trump has never won the popular vote. But despite concerns about outside influences in the 2016 election as noted by the Republican led intelligence committee, Clinton conceded to Trump and wished him well:



As did the Democratic Leader in the House


Would that the leaders of the Republican party were half as mature.

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She then proceeded to spend the next couple of years calling Trump illegitimate.

Get back to me when Trump calls Biden to concede and offer his congratulations, and to work with him on behalf of the country.
He's already got all of you convinced the election was stolen. Maybe he could mature a little.

(that doesn't mean taking National Archives or intelligence documents to a resort)

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Get back to me when Trump calls Biden to concede and offer his congratulations, and to work with him on behalf of the country.
He's already got all of you convinced the election was stolen. Maybe he could mature a little.

(that doesn't mean taking National Archives or intelligence documents to a resort)

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I'm not convinced but you'd really, really like us to be. To fit your narrative....

The Senate Republicans are introducing a bill that would make it illegal to have an abortion after 15 weeks.

What the hell are they doing??

It has NO chance of passing, and even if it does, which it won't, there's no way in hell Biden would sign it. All they're going to end up accomplishing is whooping the Democratic base into a frenzy, which is the last thing they want to be doing right now!! The Democrats can use this to grow their base. People who are not politically active and don't normally vote will now have a reason to show up at the midterms and vote Blue.

What the hell are they doing??

Generally, it's only the Democrats that are this stupid and this non-strategic. I think what REALLY put the nail in the coffin for the GOP back in 2020 as far as losing both the House and the Senate was the ACB being rushed through to the Supreme Court. That outraged Team Blue and gave the Dems the final rallying cry that they needed. But at least the Republicans got something out of it! They won't get a damn thing out of this!!

WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING!!??