We All Love Ed.....but

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Originally Posted by xuwin

That's a real stretch to say that he makes 5 bad plays for every good play. I assure you that if that were anywhere close to being true he would not be playing for Xavier.

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It was a slight exaggeration. But the fact remains that he makes far more mistakes than any of our other starters.

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Originally Posted by Drew

It was a slight exaggeration. But the fact remains that he makes far more mistakes than any of our other starters.

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He averages fewer turnovers per 100 possessions than any other starter. Among starters, only Ed has a lower Defensive Rating.

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Originally Posted by Caf

I think you have a different memory of Reynolds' game than I do, Farr for sure. I'd also love to see that with Gates, I've hoped he'd become a stronger mid-range and post contributor.

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Reynolds and Farr were both more than capable of playing out to 15 feet with the occasional no no no whew three pointer. None of our three "bigs" should ever shoot outside of 8 feet maximum

Also, It's pretty clear certain posters such as nasdadjr have zero idea what theyre talking about and zero credibility. Why do people continually engage them?

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Originally Posted by ammtd34

He averages fewer turnovers per 100 possessions than any other starter. Among starters, only Ed has a lower Defensive Rating.

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Get out of here with facts and statistics. X should play its best players less so that they can provide a "spark."

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Originally Posted by TUclutch

Reynolds and Farr were both more than capable of playing out to 15 feet with the occasional no no no whew three pointer. None of our three "bigs" should ever shoot outside of 8 feet maximum

Also, It's pretty clear certain posters such as nasdadjr have zero idea what theyre talking about and zero credibility. Why do people continually engage them?

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I still say that overstates Reynolds' shooting abilities. However, I don't think that's really significant in terms of justifying 2 bigs. It's mainly done for defensive purposes and on a team where we lack any major bigs, it's a useful option. Just look at our blocks for example. Edmond Sumner is tied with Gaston for most blocks on the team, he's a PG, and hasn't played in 2 games... Sean O'Mara has 2 blocks on the year! That's one more than Tim Stainbrook. I think that's reason enough to say that 2 bigs is at least occasionally necessary and I haven't even delved into rebounding. If Jones keeps it up this will be a moot point though, but currently I think it's a little crazy to use the same philosophy with Jones/O'Mara/Gaston as you did with Farr/Reynolds.

Reynolds had a pretty decent mid-range jumper. I remember that his prep school coach described his as Thomas Robinson with a jump shot. That was the cruelest thing anyone ever did to Reynolds, because that high praise led to some unreasonable expectations that he never approached.

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Originally Posted by ammtd34

He averages fewer turnovers per 100 possessions than any other starter. Among starters, only Ed has a lower Defensive Rating.

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I love it when people cherry pick stats to make their argument instead of owning it. So lets make it clear. You don't think JP is prone to mistakes?

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Originally Posted by Drew

I love it when people cherry pick stats to make their argument instead of owning it. So lets make it clear. You don't think JP is prone to mistakes?

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So if you were Mack what would your usage of JP look like?

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Originally Posted by Caf

I disagree. I think it was very much out of necessity as O'Mara wasn't a reliable backup. We were toast on defense with just him on the floor and Reynolds was consistently getting in foul trouble. As said, it's not his go-to pairing but it's still important against teams with big PFs. Especially defensively. We don't have a single rim protector, so crowding the box with 2 big men is our best bet.

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So O'Mara wasn't a reliable backup, yet Farr and Reynolds both averaged fewer minutes per game than any recent starting big? When those previous bigs include Matt Stainbrook and Kenny Frease? In addition, Reynolds wasn't consistently in foul trouble, and that doesn't even address Farr, who had a much lower foul rate. Farr would have easily played more minutes per game if there was actually an issue of depth and not a choice of play style. Also, Mack would be recruiting more bigs if he was really interested in two-big lineups all the time. Jones was a redshirt candidate if Ekiyor came and K. Jones is a project with grades issues.

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Originally Posted by XUFan09

Also, Mack would be recruiting more bigs if he was really interested in two-big lineups all the time. Jones was a redshirt candidate if Ekiyor came and K. Jones is a project with grades issues.

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THIS.. Mack preferred to use that style back when that was all he had. Aka Phillmore/Stainbrook, etc. The game has changed and thank God we have a coach that recognizes that. He changed his recruiting style a couple years ago and it's pretty evident in who he's gotten. The JR class now had only O'Mara and London as bigs and London is a pure stretch 4. With the last 2 classes and the one coming in next year, pretty certain he wants long and athletic guys that can play multiple positions all over the court. It allows them to switch constantly on defense and create problems on offense.