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06-14-2022, 09:50 PM
paulxu

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Originally Posted by xubrew

What would I call it?? Uhhh….I suppose I’d call it Complete Bullshit.

I initially misread/misunderstood the question. The only one who tried to steal the election was Trump, and he failed, and then he accused the Dems of stealing it and a bunch of his numbskull supporters believed him. If your point is that rallying around injustices is better than rallying around complete bullshit, I agree.

Sorry if I wasn't clear Brew. You had commented that Dems often rally around an injustice, perceived or otherwise.
I found that similar to Republicans rallying around the Big Lie (a significant percentage still believe it), and wondered if you would see that as the same sort of behavior.
06-14-2022, 10:23 PM
XU_Lou

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Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

And for the record, I’m no political party. I agree and disagree with what both sides are saying. But why name call? I don’t get it. Paul is a quality poster here. From an outsider looking in…the conservatives here are downright nasty to anyone that disagrees with their ideologies. That’s not right. It’s scary.

Sure I’ll be called a “libtard” in the democrat party for saying this. I’m not. Just don’t understand why grown adults have to call people names because they don’t agree. Democrat party? That kills me. Never happened before Trump. Now everyone calls the Democratic Party that. How fucking shallow…

Have you seen the condition of the country lately? Who's running it?
06-14-2022, 10:24 PM
xubrew

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Sorry if I wasn't clear Brew. You had commented that Dems often rally around an injustice, perceived or otherwise.
I found that similar to Republicans rallying around the Big Lie (a significant percentage still believe it), and wondered if you would see that as the same sort of behavior.

No. Not at all. “Perceived Injustice” was probably not the best way to put it. Calling something like the Supreme Court appointments an injustice may be overstating it, but it was definitely an unfair double standard, and they had a right to be mad, and I think they were able to gain a lot of votes because of it. Trump just totally pulled the stolen election out of his ass. I originally thought that’s what you were talking about and was asking if I thought the Dems could use that as a rallying point in the next election. I said I didn’t think so if Trump wasn’t running. Then I realized what you were actually asking and changed my answer.
06-14-2022, 10:33 PM
Nigel Tufnel

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Sorry. Paul is, respectfully, an Idiot.
Anyone who refuses to see that the Party he supports is destroying the American way of life and cannot stop obsessing over someone who has not been in power for a Year and a half is acting in an Idiotic fashion. He is a one trick pony that has nothing he can say positive about the guy who IS in power so he continually attacks a ghost.
And he’s not going to get away with it, respectfully or not. I’m sick of it. For 4 years everything was the President’s fault, although things were good. Now nothing is the President’s fault (?) (it is) and Paul somehow can’t say a word?

People in the US, especially POC’s and lower income folks are hurting big time, and Paul refuses to call his party out on it. Nah, nobody’s giggling. Destroying the country isn’t funny.
If the moderators don’t like it, just delete the entire thread.

Fair enough. Others disagree with your opinion. Right or wrong…name calling? Like I said…I hope you’re better than that.
06-14-2022, 10:34 PM
Nigel Tufnel

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Have you seen the condition of the country lately? Who's running it?

I’m.not naive enough to think I have all the answers…
06-14-2022, 11:07 PM
Masterofreality

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Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

Fair enough. Others disagree with your opinion. Right or wrong…name calling? Like I said…I hope you’re better than that.

When it comes to the country’s system being absolutely destroyed, it’s war….and I’m not better than that.
An Idiotic vision of what an effective government is will ruin the lives of my Grandchildren. And it will not go unchallenged.
If you like lessening freedoms, high inflation, unchecked fed spending, the ruining of schools, decimating US energy independence, ridiculous fuel costs, Supreme Court candidates who can’t even define what a woman is and an unchecked border, then welcome to Paul’s Party’s America.
Idiocy.
06-15-2022, 05:38 AM
Xuperman

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Originally Posted by Caf

It's happening because of people like you who are susceptible to the appeals of the polarizing political and media complex. Find people with views opposite to yours and talk to them. If anyone thinks that one side versus the other is more to blame for any issue in the country, they are part of the problem.

Blame for ANY issue?

Please explain how any Republican is responsible for the disaster at our Southern Border, because one of the central cornerstones of the Party platform is the exact opposite of what the Dems are allowing to happen.

What about surging crime in our Big Cities? These are all DEEP BLUE cities, run by progressive Mayors and DAs, most with defund Police agendas. Not to mention the Dems control all 3 houses in DC and are doing ZERO to combat this at the Federal level AND their allies in the MSM refuse to cover the problem. Not to mention, which Party tried to sugarcoat the ANTIFA/BLM looting and violence? This shitshow is most certainly one sided.

How about our embarrassing Public School Systems in those very same cities? The heavily progressive Teachers Unions have to be one of the most corrosive institutions in the country. Where are the Conservative politicians adding to this massive problem?

What about "Wokeness" and pushing all these over the top social issues? Now you probably have no problem with this stuff but a vast majority does IMO. Regardless, it's the Dems and the far left wing of the Party, championing this stuff. Again, almost entirely one sided.

Probably the most serious situation is what Biden and the Dems have done to our Energy Sector through his DAY ONE Executive orders. There are no Green New Deal Republicans that I'm aware of. The havoc to the economy, brought on by this agenda is undeniable. Is there any argument that this is not a HUGE problem?

Blame for ANY issue? I don't see how both sides are to blame for the above, but I would really like to hear how you connect the dots.
06-15-2022, 08:47 AM
STL_XUfan

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

When it comes to the country’s system being absolutely destroyed, it’s war….and I’m not better than that.
An Idiotic vision of what an effective government is will ruin the lives of my Grandchildren. And it will not go unchallenged.
If you like lessening freedoms, high inflation, unchecked fed spending, the ruining of schools, decimating US energy independence, ridiculous fuel costs, Supreme Court candidates who can’t even define what a woman is and an unchecked border, then welcome to Paul’s Party’s America.
Idiocy.

You do know that Paul is not an elected official (at least I don't think so). Also you are just screaming into the void on a message board. No great policy change is going to come out of this forum. I think you can tone back the "its war" rhetoric a little bit.
06-15-2022, 08:49 AM
Smails

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Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

You’re an idiot.

Why do this? You may not agree with his opinions politically. But name calling? I hope you are better than this. Politics make people go crazy. But Paul is always respectful on this site. I hope you guys are friends and giggling about this. Otherwise, you need your dick knocked in the dirt. Seriously…name calling?

So you think someone needs to get their ass kicked for calling someone an idiot? Interesting take when preaching respect and telling others how they should treat one and other. Just sayin...
06-15-2022, 09:01 AM
Masterofreality

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Originally Posted by STL_XUfan

You do know that Paul is not an elected official (at least I don't think so). Also you are just screaming into the void on a message board. No great policy change is going to come out of this forum. I think you can tone back the "its war" rhetoric a little bit.

Considering that the City in your screen name here has the 3rd highest violent crime rate in the US now and it traditionally has been one of the most dangerous, it appears the war is on.

Yeah Paul isn’t “elected” but he and idiots like him “ELECT” the Idiots we currently have in power.
Being called out for his ridiculous creeds, however, after all of us being subjected to his Screeds from 2017 to 2021 is merely payback. Maybe he should have just initially kept his mouth shut.
BTW With gas at $5.19 this morning, Paul’s President criticized the oil companies in a letter accusing them of not producing enough fuel “in a time of war”.
Hmmmmmm. War.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_St._Louis