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06-10-2022, 05:19 PM
GoMuskies

What a stupid fine.
06-10-2022, 05:30 PM
xuphan

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Great. If a couple people heard it, and Trump says he didn't...and they are under oath...do you think he'd go under oath?

Wait...stupid question. My bad. He would lie easily as 30,000+ have shown. You're right. We'd need a tape.

Paul, just like Trump saying that Mexico would pay for the southern wall, his alleged comment about Pence was hyperbole. The general public knows that what he said was never going to happen. Just like Biden’s comment about removing Putin from power was hyperbole.

Let me ask you this Paul, if the roles were reversed and Biden had done what Trump has allegedly done, would you want Biden to be prosecution? I bet there would be a majority of Dems who would back Biden to the ends of the Earth.

The problem is politicians on both sides of the isle are not held accountable for their actions. There bases will always back them regardless of what they do. How Bill Clinton remained in office after his impeachment trial still baffles me today. A classic example of a political base backing their leader regardless of what he did.
06-10-2022, 06:58 PM
Masterofreality

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Originally Posted by paulxu

That explains why he stayed and greeted the "tourists" in the Senate; if he was in danger, his Secret Service detail would have evacuated him to a safe spot.

I didn't watch the hearing. Most of what is being presented has been shown before. Some new stuff. Coherent time line probably was beneficial to those buried in a Fox universe for the last year and a half. Did notice some sedition charges the other day.

So much hyperbole…so little time.
Rioters in Seattle charged with misdemeanors for attacking a Federal Courthouse are released on their recognizance.
Demonstrators in DC who attack a sitting Senator (Rand Paul) and his wife on a street are charged with misdemeanors and released without bail.
Demonstrators in DC 1/6 are charged with Misdemeanors and held in jail for months.
Quite the disconnect. Not quite “equal justice under the law”.

https://theweek.com/rand-paul/101109...-rand-paul?amp
06-10-2022, 07:48 PM
noteggs

Hmmm WHO looking further into China lab leak on covid. Wonder what changed their minds?
06-10-2022, 08:16 PM
paulxu

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Originally Posted by xuphan

Let me ask you this Paul, if the roles were reversed and Biden had done what Trump has allegedly done, would you want Biden to be prosecution?

Yes.

I think Trump put our country in great peril. I think his potential return, as so many believe his lies, is frightening.
If Biden worked with people to overturn an election, if he watched and did nothing while our Capitol was attacked, I think he should be prosecuted.

So let me ask you a question; do you think Trump should be held accountable for his actions?
06-10-2022, 08:41 PM
bobbiemcgee

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Originally Posted by xuphan

. There bases will always back them regardless of what they do. How Bill Clinton remained in office after his impeachment trial still baffles me today. A classic example of a political base backing their leader regardless of what he did.

Maybe because 10 republicans voted him "not guilty".
06-10-2022, 11:28 PM
X-band '01

Honestly, the first impeachment of Trump was as political as Clinton's was. Had the Democrats just waited and held their tongues, impeachment would have had a higher probability of kicking him out of office.

And for the record, I have a serious problem with people trying to assassinate or threaten to assassinate political figures, whether it's Kavanaugh, Scalise, Pence, Gabby Giffords, etc. I could go on.
06-11-2022, 05:18 AM
xuphan

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Yes.

I think Trump put our country in great peril. I think his potential return, as so many believe his lies, is frightening.
If Biden worked with people to overturn an election, if he watched and did nothing while our Capitol was attacked, I think he should be prosecuted.

So let me ask you a question; do you think Trump should be held accountable for his actions?

In my opinion, ALL politicians should be held accountable just like the average American if they break the law.
06-11-2022, 06:57 AM
Masterofreality

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Originally Posted by xuphan

In my opinion, ALL politicians should be held accountable just like the average American if they break the law.

This is the correct answer if they break the law.
But not if they are the victim of a partisan witch hunt with flimsy or zero evidence that has been manipulated.
Just a slight clarification.
06-11-2022, 09:17 AM
bobbiemcgee

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

This is the correct answer if they break the law.
But not if they are the victim of a partisan witch hunt with flimsy or zero evidence that has been manipulated.
Just a slight clarification.

"But the alternate reality that about forty percent of us live in will never be breached by actual facts." - Tom Nichols, Atlantic