Great. If a couple people heard it, and Trump says he didn't...and they are under oath...do you think he'd go under oath?
Wait...stupid question. My bad. He would lie easily as 30,000+ have shown. You're right. We'd need a tape.
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Oh, I expect him to lie his ass off or take the 5th. He'll blame everyone under the sun. Ivanka may tell some truth like she did last nite.