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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Not very specific on many of those - pretty generic, in fact. Moreover, you've mis-characterized yourself on taxes and capitalism. Sorry, those aren't conservative positions that you have there. So, really, we still don't have a lot of information on where you stand, other than sounding like most libs.

How many genders are there?

Can men have babies?

Do you believe America is a racist country?

Do you believe that only white men are capable of racism?

Should our government pass laws or tax its citizens in ways to social engineer or promote various outcomes - or should all citizens be treated the same?

Your party tried to pass a law yesterday that would allow women (or is that "birthing people" in your parlance?) to abort their babies just before conception. You say that's up to them - but aren't you espousing murder at that point?

What exactly is an extreme conservative? Do you even know what conservatives believe in? Were the founding fathers extreme? Is the Constitution extreme? Is freedom extreme? Is self-determination extreme? Do you think Republican and Conservatives should have the same rights to free speech, or do you support the Democrat assault on our rights in the name of stopping "disinformation" or so-called "hate speech"? Do you believe in equal protection under the law, or do you prefer that Democrats continue to get away with crimes that Republicans are prosecuted for? Do you believe in America first, or should we be giving money and making deals to help other countries out to our detriment? Do you believe our gov't is pissing money away? If so, why would we ever give them any more?

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Haha, I tried LOU. You wanted me to be specific on topics and I gave you my personal beliefs on a number of issues. However, you seemed to dodge my question to you entirely. Let’s try this again. Give me some proof that you are not an extreme right wing conservative. What liberal views do you have to show you are not an extreme conservative? You seem to have a problem answering peoples questions on here. Try to take your own advice and stop dodging peoples questions.

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

"The Interior Department says oil and gas companies are able to drill on more than 9,000 already approved drilling permits on federal lands.

Oil companies aren’t drilling there because there’s too much regulation, said Kathleen Sgamma, president of the Western Energy Alliance.

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So you want some more land opened up? Do you see the ridiculousness of that position? What would you do with more leases...look at them and complain?

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Originally Posted by paulxu

So you want some more land opened up? Do you see the ridiculousness of that position? What would you do with more leases...look at them and complain?

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He won’t answer your questions Paul. He will just ask you more questions as a way to deflect from what you are saying. This Lou guy is hilarious. Did he really graduate from X?

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Originally Posted by paulxu

So you want some more land opened up? Do you see the ridiculousness of that position? What would you do with more leases...look at them and complain?

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Did you even read Sgamma's reason? Do you know something she doesn't? Do you know if there's enough oil in those approved areas that would allow oil companies to make a profit? Maybe those areas are just too cost prohibitive for some reason. Again, it's called Econ 101: if there's money to be made, an oil company is going to jump at the chance. You're just regurgitating excuses put out by the Biden regime that have no basis in reality.

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Originally Posted by xuphan

Haha, I tried LOU. You wanted me to be specific on topics and I gave you my personal beliefs on a number of issues. However, you seemed to dodge my question to you entirely. Let’s try this again. Give me some proof that you are not an extreme right wing conservative. What liberal views do you have to show you are not an extreme conservative? You seem to have a problem answering peoples questions on here. Try to take your own advice and stop dodging peoples questions.

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How many genders are there?

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Originally Posted by xuphan

Climate: liberal but not green new deal liberal
Gun Control: Conservative but no one needs an AK-47.
Abortion: Liberal: pro life but not my choice what others do with their bodies. That’s up to them and god.
Immigration: Conservative. Should be done legally
Taxes: Conservative but top earners need to pay their fair share which isn’t happening.
Capitalism: semi conservative though there needs to be way more money distribution throughout society through taxing the super rich.

I also believe that their should be term limits in congress. Pelosi, McConnell etc should have been gone a long time ago. I believe gerrymandering by both parties should be illegal. I believe there should not political lobbying done with money. I also believe that there should not be a Democratic or Republican Party. To me, both parties are no different than lobbyists which results in politicians favoring their political party instead of their constituents. I also believe each congressmen or women should earn the median or average salary of the constituents they serve.

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The "phan" has courage......nice list!!! However, plenty of room for debate on most of it. My below posted issues are nearly bulletproof.

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Originally Posted by Xuperman

This is a good opportunity to pose the "can we all agree" question for our liberal leftist friends here, because this board reflects the political climate in our country quite nicely.

Is there ANYONE here who would disagree with any of these-

Letting mass numbers of ILLEGAL immigrants enter the USA without being tested for Covid and other contagious diseases is indefensible and dangerous to American Citizens?

Defunding Law Enforcement as policy defies logic and only foments more crime?

Biological Men should not be able to compete in Women's sports?

Term Limits for Federal Politicians would be effective in eliminating a lot of greed/corruption in DC?

This is a nice variety of issues.....both political and social.

Are we so divided that there is no common ground?

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I would expect that for most of us, this thread has become tiresome. I posted this pages ago hoping to chip away at the extremist divide that is prevalent here and unfortunately our country in general.

But, as expected, our leftist Bullhorns here were not willing to comment..... crickets.

How about this. Can any of our liberal friends here post 4 things, political or social, that we all can agree on? Now THAT would be interesting!

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

How many genders are there?

Can men have babies?

Do you believe America is a racist country?

Do you believe that only white men are capable of racism?

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I can't even believe that these questions have to be asked.......what the f#ck happened to us?

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

How many genders are there?

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Still waiting for you to answer my question there LOU.

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Not very specific on many of those - pretty generic, in fact. Moreover, you've mis-characterized yourself on taxes and capitalism. Sorry, those aren't conservative positions that you have there. So, really, we still don't have a lot of information on where you stand, other than sounding like most libs.

How many genders are there?

Can men have babies?

Do you believe America is a racist country?

Do you believe that only white men are capable of racism?

Should our government pass laws or tax its citizens in ways to social engineer or promote various outcomes - or should all citizens be treated the same?

Your party tried to pass a law yesterday that would allow women (or is that "birthing people" in your parlance?) to abort their babies just before conception. You say that's up to them - but aren't you espousing murder at that point?

What exactly is an extreme conservative? Do you even know what conservatives believe in? Were the founding fathers extreme? Is the Constitution extreme? Is freedom extreme? Is self-determination extreme? Do you think Republican and Conservatives should have the same rights to free speech, or do you support the Democrat assault on our rights in the name of stopping "disinformation" or so-called "hate speech"? Do you believe in equal protection under the law, or do you prefer that Democrats continue to get away with crimes that Republicans are prosecuted for? Do you believe in America first, or should we be giving money and making deals to help other countries out to our detriment? Do you believe our gov't is pissing money away? If so, why would we ever give them any more?

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You don’t understand the term centrist do you, lou? Let me educate you once again… it’s having objective viewpoints based on an issue and not just believing the stance of whatever party you are aligned with. Said another way, it could be on an issue such as capitalism… a centrist viewpoint would be people should be allowed to make the money that they make, but the ridiculous gap between the very top and the next level is a cause of concern and should be looked at to fix. “Extremism” is going to the furthest right or left that you can go politically, it’s not really that difficult to understand. For the left it would be the ridiculous notion that theee are more than two genders.

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Originally Posted by Xville

You don’t understand the term centrist do you, lou? Let me educate you once again… it’s having objective viewpoints based on an issue and not just believing the stance of whatever party you are aligned with. Said another way, it could be on an issue such as capitalism… a centrist viewpoint would be people should be allowed to make the money that they make, but the ridiculous gap between the very top and the next level is a cause of concern and should be looked at to fix. “Extremism” is going to the furthest right or left that you can go politically, it’s not really that difficult to understand. For the left it would be the ridiculous notion that theee are more than two genders.

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You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. You obviously know very little about my politics.