He also won't have the ability to showcase his skills against high level competition and he will never be on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
I don't get it.
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He also won't have the ability to showcase his skills against high level competition and he will never be on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
I don't get it.
Sure he will. Manhattan will play plenty of good teams. And what does being on TV matter? He'll be playing ball in NYC. The scouts won't have any trouble finding him.
That's where Kansas State is, which has recently featured good basketball teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by drudy23
Maybe you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
I get it.
He's getting a whole lotta extra somethin out of this...from someone, somewhere.
People probably said the same things when X got good recruits in the past. A kid chooses a school for many reasons. Having a great relationship with a coach is probably high on that list.
I was at UDump for the Manhattan game. Manhattan was pathetic. Dayton wasn't much better, but the two combined for 44 turnovers (25 for the Jaspers). Offensively, Manhattan had no movement and defensively ran and jumped at everything. While I know it's sort of their thing, you'd think they'd be better at, you know, "their thing."
It's not normal for a high school kid to just follow someone around because they have a "good relationship"...that makes no sense. And as Judge Judy says, "when it doesn't make sense, it ain't true." There's a reason why he's following him around, otherwise, it's kinda creepy.
Did anyone nail down exactly why Davis left XU for Manhattan in the first place? That was definitely not a lateral move. Regardless, Chris Thomas is a head case and probably won't play a single game in the NBA. Would have been nice to have him but maybe a Manhattan type of school being off the radar is exactly what he needs.
Faster track to a head coaching position maybe? Did he leave before or after Pat Kelsey?
What's creepy is that it's perfectly normal for adults to come on a messageboard and criticize where a kid chooses to go to school and why.
Best of luck to the kid.
Family reasons. Which I'm sure has some seedy circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad
What's unfortunate about this particular situation is that to many it will appear that this kid seemingly backed out of a commitment to Xavier when in reality he had no choice but to reopen his recruitment. X stopped recruiting him because he is such a flake. Coaches are not allowed to comment on recruits so the only story that's made public is the player's story. There is a reason why an incredible talent like Thomas ends up at a place like Manhattan........and the smart money says he'll never play a single collegiate game.
Not sure if your statement is true because Mack made a visit to Colorado to meet with his grandma 2 weeks prior to him decommitting. Unless you have some other source it was reported on Scout that things were looking good for Thomas to come to X at that time. While he may have maturity issues it's hard to turn a talent away as good as he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by sweet16
(Xavier fan reads about Chris Thomas committing to XU) "Great recruiting job by Mack and Davis!"Quote:
Originally Posted by DC Muskie
(Same Xavier fans read about Chris Thomas committing to Manhattan) "Something fishy is going on...I bet he's getting money on the side from Davis" (the same coach XU employed last year)
And later other sources on scout said it was best for both parties to go their separate ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsteve1
KState is in Manhattan, KSQuote:
Originally Posted by drudy23
I would like to believe what you wrote. But Xavier didn't "stop recruiting him" (they already had offered him a scholarship). And the scholarship offer was never pullled, if that's what you meant. He decommited on his own.Quote:
Originally Posted by sweet16
Actually, that is quite common for a kid to follow an assistant coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by drudy23
Everyone needs to overcome the misconception that a player needs to be on ESPN all the time in order to get attention from scouts. The scouting industry for the NBA is much bigger than that. When a player is really good, scouts know about it, plain and simple. Hell, scouts have often been following these kids since they were underclassmen at some random high school.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
See Damian Lillard, Weber St, #6 pick in NBA draft
This is not the way I understand it, Xavier would have taken him had he remained committed.Quote:
Originally Posted by sweet16
Given the definition of flake, it seems like you are saying the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuts4xu
Don't see your point, Xavier didn't stop recruting Chris Thomas.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
The kid had a strong relationship with Rasheen Davis, and had he decided not to follow Davis to Manhatten, Xavier would have honored their committment.
Fair enough. I just meant tha the definition of flake is really someone who is not committed to anything. So it seems like you're really saying that Xavier would have taken his commitment if he wasn't such a flake, which is really only a slight difference from what sweet16 said.
Xavier took his commitment and didn't stop recruiting him....flake or not. Chris Thomas pulled his verbal, not Xavier.
So no matter how much of a flake he is, Chris Thomas had a scholarship at Xavier next year had he wanted to play here.
Gotcha
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Originally Posted by Juice
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Originally Posted by XUFan09
Not adding anything, but these three hit the nail on the head for meQuote:
Originally Posted by XUFan09
I like to think of him as "Semaj!, Sr."Quote:
Originally Posted by SM#24
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Originally Posted by nuts4xu
Nuts, I don't want to get into a big "thang" with you here but that is not what happened. Xavier backed off on him......not the other way around. If I told you where my information came from I'm certain that your response would be something to the effect of "that's good enough for me". Having said that, I really don't care if you believe me or not. What does bother me however is that misinformation (ie Thomas de-commits) such as this, in my opinion, does Mack, the basketball program and the university a huge disservice. We no longer wanted that headcase to be a part of our program. Unfortunately, as I stated before, the coaches can't comment so the only story that's made public is the player's.
In 26 games at Chipola this year, Thomas averaged 9.9 pts while shooting 47% from the field, 18% from three, and 51% from the line. He averaged 5 rebounds and 3 assists.
Sounds like he may have been a touch overrated.
That is a pretty crappy JUCO stat line. I wonder if effort/commitment is an issue for him. It certainly seemed like he had the physical tools.
Believe me, he has the physical skills. There is clearly something else going on. Oh well, Rasheen's problem now.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
The bar at every level is so much higher than the previous bar. It takes a lot of talent and a lot of work to move from one level to the next.
18% from three? Ugh.
Yeah. 9-49. Not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by drudy23
No doubt, but I've talked to people who have seen this guy play since he was about 15, and there was never even a shadow of doubt that he had a LOT of talent. Sometimes, even the most talented guys don't pan out. I knew a guy who was ranked as high as the #2 overall player nationally in our class by Hoop Scout our sophomore year (behind only Dwight Howard, if I remember correctly.) He never even went to college. He was very academically capable too, which is the saddest part. When we were freshmen, he had been in ever national publication and we all thought it was a matter of time before we saw him in the NBA. Everyone's story is different, but unfortunately, it seems to me that Thomas is heading down a similar path.Quote:
Originally Posted by smileyy
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
Former Manhattan commit Chris Thomas will wind up at Marshall, per a source. Big time offensive talent. Was #1 JUCO player nationally.
The what if game... Semaj, Thomas, and Dez. WowQuote:
Originally Posted by outsideobserver11