Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Uh, is that a story with a screaming front page headline like under the previous administration?
Or is it buried on page 20 of the style section? And where is the comparison that shows that MORE people have died under Biden than Trump despite all of the new weapons? Seems like that might be a story? Oh, but don’t say anything that hurts Grandpa Joe.
Show me the accompanying story with crying drama details like before.
And what happened to CNN’s Covid death counter comparing the toll to the Vietnam war?
Kinda gone away under Mr. Joe.

By the way. Please point out what is fake??

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You have said that you don't watch mainstream media, you just look at what other people report about what mainstream media is saying. I think this is on of those times, cause Covid is front and center on all forms of media.

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Originally Posted by STL_XUfan

You have said that you don't watch mainstream media, you just look at what other people report about what mainstream media is saying. I think this is on of those times, cause Covid is front and center on all forms of media.

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Uh, please refer to my post 12757 in this Thread. I detail what I read.
Point being, like I said in my post that X-man tried to diss Biden is not being held responsible for these deaths in the same manner as Trump was. Rather than placing any blame on the current disgrace of an Administration who has lied and obfuscated for the last year with worse results there is, maybe, a benign count.
Blood on Biden’s hands. Incompetence at play here.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Uh, is that a story with a screaming front page headline like under the previous administration?
Or is it buried on page 20 of the style section? And where is the comparison that shows that MORE people have died under Biden than Trump despite all of the new weapons? Seems like that might be a story? Oh, but don’t say anything that hurts Grandpa Joe.
Show me the accompanying story with crying drama details like before.
And what happened to CNN’s Covid death counter comparing the toll to the Vietnam war?
Kinda gone away under Mr. Joe.

By the way. Please point out what is fake??

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Front page.

Where does it mention Joe Biden’s responsibility? You seem to ignore that part of my post & the story?

Please share what is fake, smarty.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Uh, please refer to my post 12757 in this Thread. I detail what I read.
Point being, like I said in my post that X-man tried to diss Biden is not being held responsible for these deaths in the same manner as Trump was. Rather than placing any blame on the current disgrace of an Administration who has lied and obfuscated for the last year with worse results there is, maybe, a benign count.
Blood on Biden’s hands. Incompetence at play here.

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Please give evidence on (1) Biden's lies, (2) Biden's incompetence regarding covid (He's displayed plenty on other things.), and (3) why you claim there is blood on Biden's hands (Are you alleging that he responsible for either the emergence of omicron or the lack of vaccinations in "Trump nation" where most of the blood exists?)

What is wrong with X and their new ID mandate to enter Cintas?? Don’t they know this is fan suppression! How can they possibly expect everyone to have an ID. Come on X be better! Wait until the ACLU finds out about this.

Yes sarc font…

I mean maybe it’s just me but arguing which of the two worst presidents ever ( for different reasons) is worse seems like a waste of breath or a waste of possible carpal tunnel syndrome.

I'm lost with some of this discussion
You might be able to hold a president responsible for actions or inaction that cause harm.

Trump did a great job in pushing to get vaccines developed. I don't think he did a good job in managing the message coming from the WH, or pressuring agencies that should remain apolitical. It's only now he is urging vaccines...and getting booed by his supporters for doing so.

The fact that more people have died in 2021 than 2020, is a mathematical factor of virus spread, variants and refusals to get the vaccines.

The WSJ on it's front page notes how Biden is urging people to get the vaccines and making sure that they are available.
They're pushing to get more tests available to help people manage their activity if one is positive.
Most hospitalizations and deaths are now in the unvaccinated.
Yet we create a bizarre reality in holding the president responsible for ongoing deaths.
If he mandates vaccines, or airlines require them, or basketball arenas...we start shouting freedom, you can't make me get it, etc.
But...if people die who are not vaccinated by a factor of 5X...it's somehow the president's fault they died? Blood on his hands? He's incompetent?

Makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

I'm lost with some of this discussion
You might be able to hold a president responsible for actions or inaction that cause harm.

Trump did a great job in pushing to get vaccines developed. I don't think he did a good job in managing the message coming from the WH, or pressuring agencies that should remain apolitical. It's only now he is urging vaccines...and getting booed by his supporters for doing so.
The fact that more people have died in 2021 than 2020, is a mathematical factor of virus spread, variants and refusals to get the vaccines.

The WSJ on it's front page notes how Biden is urging people to get the vaccines and making sure that they are available.
They're pushing to get more tests available to help people manage their activity if one is positive.
Most hospitalizations and deaths are now in the unvaccinated.
Yet we create a bizarre reality in holding the president responsible for ongoing deaths.
If he mandates vaccines, or airlines require them, or basketball arenas...we start shouting freedom, you can't make me get it, etc.
But...if people die who are not vaccinated by a factor of 5X...it's somehow the president's fault they died? Blood on his hands? He's incompetent?

Makes no sense.

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Totally. Logically, MOR is saying that Biden should have mandated vaccinations for everyone, to minimize the "blood". But of course that isn't what MOR is advocating. Logic and consistency is not part of his thought process.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Amazingly, no main stream media outlet wants to report this but despite the availability of vaccines, therapeutics and all the other “masking and vax mandates” and despite Biden's campaign pledge to "shut down the virus" if elected, 417,610 Americans have died from COVID-19 since Biden was inaugurated, which is more than the 408,450 deaths from COVID-19 that occurred on Trump's watch. Good luck trying to find any recent reporting on these figures in mainstream media outlets. Their silence is in stark contrast to the breathless "blood on his hands" hysteria with which they covered every new case of the virus until precisely Jan. 20, 2021.
Funny huh? Trump basically had a year of his Presidency with the virus, got vaccines rushed to market and other measures. Biden had all of this stuff available, but…..
Joe has “Blood on his incompetent hands”.

And before anyone blames the non vaxxed, remember that almost NOBODY was vaxxed in January 2021. And Biden has still overseen more deaths.
Welp…

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What exactly do you want the Biden administration to do in regards to Covid? You sure seem to have all the answers, or are you just yelling out into the abyss about how the media was mean to trump and they protect Biden?