Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Yup. And the Dems can blame one of their own, the Arrogant Harry Reid who greased the skids for easier approvals.
And yet the Dems want to try to pack the court & eliminate the filibuster that if happened, would just be used against them when the Republicans got power back.

Why are Dems so determined to ruin the country’s norms that were so perfectly set up by the Founders?

What norms, where does it say there have to be just 9 justices? For that matter, it's has not been 9 justices it's entire existence. And on Harry Reid, if it fits the rules it's good right? It fits to the rules to expand the court. It just hasn't happened in a while, but it has happened.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Why are Dems so determined to ruin the country’s norms that were so perfectly set up by the Founders?

Haha. Perfectly set up at 6, later packed to 9.

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

Haha. Perfectly set up at 6, later packed to 9.

Since 1869...

Leftist ideas: So popular they’re mandatory and can pass Congress.

5 in 1801. Fluctuates.

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

5 in 1801. Fluctuates.

Right, so not since 1869.

Keep fighting strange brew. Liberals on this board are clueless

We independents rule as it should be:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/p...filiation.aspx

Wasn’t sure if this should go here or in the Covid thread, but here it is.

https://twitter.com/BrentHBaker/stat...64342179663872

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Crickets…. Where's the condemnation of Maxine Waters over her violent rhetoric and incitement to riot? Or was all of this just all faux outrage over a faux "insurrection":

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

trump encouraging anarchists to storm the Capitol. Not going to end well.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Words have consequences. Trumps words have the consequences we are watching.
The Vice President has been taken away, congressmen have gas masks on and are being evacuated.
If we had a real President, and not a bully, he would have never encouraged this, and he would be urging his people to stop.

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Originally Posted by boozehound

That's the big difference here.

People who are likening this to some assholes trashing buildings in Portland can fuck right off. Then they can fuck off again. Then a 3rd time.

Domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol building while legislation was in session confirming the election results. They did it because apparently millions of people are so incredibly stupid that they believe our sitting President and his sycophants claims that the election was somehow rigged, despite the fact that so far the only real evidence presented are allegations and the fact that 'lots of people believe the election was stolen'. Gee, I wonder how they got that idea?

So they stormed the Capitol. Not the state Capitol. The Nation's Capitol. The President then gave a speech telling them he 'loved them' but to go home. No condemnation. This isn't a political party, it's a cult.

If people can't see that this is on a very different level, I'm sorry but I just can't have any respect for their intellect or ability to process information.

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Originally Posted by boozehound

I do think that the very direct role that the President played in this whole thing shouldn't get lost in the shuffle though.

This wasn't just a riot. The President of the United States attempted to orchestrate a coup. He lost the election and then attempted to have it overturned. Repeatedly and brazenly. During all this he kept telling his supporters, without credible evidence, that the election was 'stolen'. For the most part, only the truly stupid believed him, but a lot of other people went along with it. Then it escalated. A few more people spoke out, but mostly people went along with it.

I'm all for personal responsibility for the individuals directly involved, but let's not kid ourselves that this was 100% incited by the sitting President and enabled (sorry smails) by a whole lot of people who sat quietly and just kind of hoped it would go away. A lot of people listen to the President. It's why who the President is, and what he says, matters.

Do we honestly think this would have happened if he is just conceded the election?

There should be universal support to put him on trial for treason. There should be serious consequences for the people involved, but there should be even more serious consequences for the person at the top. When you are the leader, you are held to a higher standard of conduct because people look to you for cues on how to act. Anybody who has led a large organization knows that.

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Originally Posted by STL_XUfan

A little bit of a difference between being a loud asshole after going through security and using force to break into the building.

Something that scares the hell out of me is that we have a 2 hour period where large parts of the Capitol that likely have intelligence and computers with access to intelligence was completely unguarded. Who knows what could have slipped in with the mob.

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrett

Jesus fucking Christ. Take some responsibility for the actions of the unhinged in your camp. Get off the fucking internet for a while. And stop devaluing the worth of a Xavier education with this drivel.

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Crickets…. Where's the condemnation of Maxine Waters over her violent rhetoric and incitement to riot? Or was all of this just all faux outrage over a faux "insurrection":

She’s an idiot. Didn’t think it needed to be said.