Chris Thomas isn't gone until he decommitsQuote:
Originally Posted by CinciX12
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Chris Thomas isn't gone until he decommitsQuote:
Originally Posted by CinciX12
Lol oh come on, like you saw Davis going to Manhattan...Quote:
Originally Posted by NY44
Of course I didn't. BUT this is why you don't freak out about a verbal commitment, a lot can happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by GIMMFD
There goes our shot at a solidly balanced team!
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Originally Posted by DC Muskie
I am not convinced that Thomas is definitely out of the equation. Where else is he considering? This may be a Lance Stephonson type of deal where people know how good he could be but will still stay away from him. If we think we can control him for a year or two it may be his best option.
You're right that people might still be hesitant with him, but it does not appear to be a Lance Stephenson type of deal, at least not at the same level At times he has a problematic on-court attitude, definitely, but off-court it has been grades and the maturity issues associated with that. I mean, if someone knows behavior-related issues off-court, please let us know. I've been asking anyone that mentions such a thing, and so far, at least, it seems to be conjecture from on-court attitude that turned into fact by being repeated enough times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just4now
Concerning his commitment, it will be tough to keep him, but a decommitment is not a guarantee (Watch, as I say that, we'll get an announcement...). He cares about loyalty; Rasheen was the only consistent presence in his recruitment, but that has suddenly changed. Hopefully, Mack developed a strong enough relationship with him in that time too, and Thomas understood Rasheen's consistent presence to also be Xavier's consistent presence.
Now where have I seen that before? Hmmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by XUFan09
To me, whether or not we still have a shot with Thomas comes down to whatever the reason Davis left for is. The kid is obviously close with him, so if Davis' departure involves any friction whatsoever between he and Xavier, I would imagine Thomas will verbally de-commit. Even if we never know if that's the case or not, Thomas will. I would expect he's out of the picture now, honestly, but it would be a little easier to swallow, I guess, considering that there was never really any guarantee he was going to play at Xavier, or any D1 school, anyway.
I feel a fresh thread is called for.
From Zagoria:
"Chris Thomas' grandmother tells @SNYtv he is still committed to Xavier despite coach Davis leaving for Manhattan"
According to Adam Zagoria, Chris Thomas' grandmother says he is still committed to X despite Davis leaving. Can't post the link but he just tweeted it.
That's nice to hear but until he signs I am not holding my breath. I hope it works out.
Absolutely agree with you there. Just thought it was worth mentioning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheesehead
That would be great news. Maybe he really has developed a great relationship with Mack and the team, allowing him to be comfortable here without Sheen. And maybe Sheen even spoke with him and told him to honor the commitment because it will still be a great place for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu15
Of course, based on what we've all seen over the last few years, I won't truly believe Thomas will play for X until he signs.
I'm banking on that, because Sheen was selling him on that very idea all along. What could he possibly say differently now without hurting his credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xman95
seeing that tweet was a bit of a sigh of relief for me
There is too much that could possibly happen in the next year to make me believe that Thomas will suit up for X. This time last year, I don't think any of our 2012 recruits were committed, and we were still holding out hope for DSR. Until he signs, I am about 30-40% towards him being a muskie, now that Davis has left. I still hope he comes here, however.
Grandmother's recruits tweeting intent of attendence... my Xavier graduate grandfather is rolling over in his grave asking; WTF is a "tweet" and why is this kid's grandmother "tweeting" where everyone can see? Holy shit we can see her tweets!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Retire FiftyTu
Agreed. The kid remains committed until he isn't. This far away from his scheduled arrival on campus, I see many more reasons why he wouldn't end up in a X uni than why he would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retire FiftyTu
I have the ultimate faith in granma's tweet. Big donor's have told me not to worry.:D
Well I'm glad he's still committed, and hopefully it stays and we have the best damn backcourt to start out in 2013 with Thomas - Dez - and Semaj.. that is if the world doesn't end.. :eek:
Chris' recruitment has been a roller coaster ride.
It wouldn't surprise me if he ended up at X simple because he and his grandmother are done with the ride and just want to move forward.
And right when I was really starting to buy into MHettel's conspiracy theory regarding Sheen and Thomas...
Well, he's too damn good to go to Manhattan.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADXSTER
Let's let Coach Mack get our staff stabilized and then go forward from there. He should be making whatever contact is allowed with Chris Thomas and using his "Bobinski List" (targets for the next coaching vacancies on his staff) to fill the two voids.
Given the many criticisms of our supposed lack of X's and O's coaches on the staff that have been expressed on Muskie message boards over the past year or two, many might actually see this situation as a big positive for the Xavier Men's Basketball Program. The big naysayers can't have it both ways! But I will not hold my breath waiting for them to turn positive in this situation!
After the season we had, you knew some type of change was coming. Well, it's here.
This is the part I don't get. I spent all year reading about how X's assistants were under-qualified and the reason X wasn't living up to its potential. How X needed to get better X and O's coaches and all this.Quote:
Originally Posted by muskienick
Now those same "professional recruiter" coaches who were deemed unqualified leave and the sky is falling?
Let me be clear, I in no way think either coach was unqualified and I wish them both well in their future positions (as long as it doesn't interfere with X) but let's be realistic in our recap:
Kelsey left for a year and then became Head Coach. Remember, when he left he was a finalist for a couple Head gigs and supposedly had accepted one. He wasn't coming back to X no matter what.
Richardson took a job at a bigger, more prestigious program who can most likely pay him more, and work for a future HOF coach. That is a promotion any way you slice it.
Davis left to go home to a program where he can be around his wife and kid. Yes, this one is a bit of a head scratcher, but remember Mack did the same thing at Wake. Why is it outrageous to think Davis wants to be home and possibly in line for HC?
Excellent point!Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleD86
Wake to Xavier and Xavier to Manhattan are comparable career moves? In what universe?
I think it is cool that Charlie Sheen is talking to our commits.
Hopefully, he doesn't give them all a Fiat!Quote:
Originally Posted by xu95
In the universe where family is a key element of the decision that was made by the individual? At least that's where I see it as comparable.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
Aww the x's and o's guy. Guess Kareem was good enough for ricky. Maybe Xavier should hire Seth Greenberg in order to satisfy the guys who need old experienced guys on the bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by muskienick
With the new vacancy maybe we can hire Chris Thomas' grandma as an assistant coach, just so we can keep him locked up. No idea how good she is with X's and O's though.
reps for you....Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePowerOfX
Maybe she'll knit the team some snazzy blue and white sweaters.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePowerOfX
Still not a perfect parallel but the Wake team that Mack left was preseason #1, while X was...not.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
Fixed it for ya :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. X
Seems Scout has an update on Chris. Any one care to paraphrase without revealing too much?
Basically, as of now, Thomas is still committed to Xavier according to his grandmother. Lots of time to go still but it's better than him not being verbally committed.