Dayton vs. SLU

[vee4xu]

ud at home tonight versus St. Louis and is a 10.5 point favorite. I definitely think the line is too high so SLU is a good pick with the points. Further, there is a good chance ud loses this one straight up.

Tipoff is at 8:00 p.m.

[kyxu]

UD should win this game by 15, which is a fair indication they'll lose.

[Muskie]

any tv????

[golfitup]

yeah, cbs college sports. I hate the camera angle UD gives us when they are on TV.

[vee4xu]

Not on the ESPN family of channels. Maybe CBS College Sports.

[vee4xu]

On another note, Va Tech leading Clemson 63-48 with 17 minutes left in the second half.

[JAX 3758]

MAN I am so glad ADAM got on here the other day and told us "how improved the flyers were from three" and how "their shooters were emerging, lowery was so nasty from three, blah, blah, blah..."

As we speak the score is 14-14 with only 8 minutes left in the first half

O YEA and dayton is 0-6 from three!

[JAX 3758]

ANDDDDDDD dont forget about the dreaded "four headed monster from dayton" Adam also told us about....

[Blue Dog]

Bills look like crap and they're still winning 22-19. If Lisch stays hot they'll win.

[JAX 3758]

the "12 headed huge monster" is now 0-7 from 3

[golfitup]

Ugh, I forgot how much i HATE the "Gooooo Dayton Flyers," cheer.

[JAX 3758]

the "18 headed monster" from dayton is now 0-8 from three...

[PM Thor]

dayton is horrible, horrible on offense. Nobody does anything, then someone has to dribble penetrate every time to get something going, hoping beyond hope for a goal or a rebound. It happens all the time.

They try to run simply because they realize their halfcourt offense is abysmal. If St Loo could hit their open shots, they would be up five by now.

This game is like watching a monkey hump a football. There has to be something better on, like an open surgery or CSPAN or something....

ooooh listen to that, I heard some boobirds at the halftime horn...

I HATE dayton.

[Blue Dog]

Gus Johnson said UD and Duke are the best defensive teams in the country? Huh? Duke I'll give you. UD can't seem to remember to cover Mitchell, who's hit 4 wide open 3's. UD plays with a lot of energy and a lot of guys, but rarely with many smarts.

[xsteve1]

Dayton is very unimpressive. Teams that X has dismantled they have really struggled with. X will sweepmthem again.

[JAX 3758]

The "22 headed monster from dayton" is down one at half to SLU 28-27

[jdm2000]

I figured SLU v. UD had all the makings of an offensive masterpiece...

[Juice]

Ugh, I forgot how much i HATE the "Gooooo Dayton Flyers," cheer.

Or the D-A-Y-TOOOOOOO-N!

F'ing awful.

[nuts4xu]

Please allow me to take this opportunity to remind everyone....

that ud still blows.

[Blue Dog]

Remember when Tommy Liddell was an NBA prospect? Majerus was the worst thing that ever happened to him.

[JAX 3758]

the "29 headed monster from dayton" is up 2 on SLU with 15 min. left in the game...

[JAX 3758]

the "35 headed monster from dayton" is now 0-9 from 3

[PM Thor]

What is dayton at now on threes? 0-10 I think? Wow are we going to destroy this team.

On top of that they make horrible decisions on the floor, fouling three point shooters, stupid walk calls, over the back calls, just dumb stuff. If St. Loo wasn't so bad....

I HATE dayton.

[X-band '01]

Or the D-A-Y-TOOOOOOO-N!

F'ing awful.

M-E-L-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-N-S

[JAX 3758]

What is dayton at now on threes? 0-10 I think? Wow are we going to destroy this team.

On top of that they make horrible decisions on the floor, fouling three point shooters, stupid walk calls, over the back calls, just dumb stuff. If St. Loo wasn't so bad....

I HATE dayton.

Thor

The "41 headed monster from dayton" is still 0-9 from three

[PM Thor]

Give it a moment, oop too late.

I HATE dayton.

[JAX 3758]

NOW they are 0-10 from three...

[golfitup]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we handle St. Louis rather easily at home a few weeks ago?

[Blue Dog]

Huelsman is pitiful.

[Blue Dog]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we handle St. Louis rather easily at home a few weeks ago?

We beat them 70-44. Would have been worse but Sean emptied the bench early.

[gladdenguy]

I guess I'm alone when I say I want Dayton to win.
I just don't think they are even close to a threat.
I hate UC, Duke, and Ohio St. much more than Dayton.
I do want another a-10 team in the tourney and Dayton is the only other shot.
Call me crazy. They suck though.
Its like the Cleveland Browns. I don't hate them because they are worse than the Bengals. Now Pittsburgh and Baltimore, I hate them.

[PM Thor]

Huelsman is pitiful.

Good God he is bad, he just got backed down rather easily, he can't even lay the ball in, he is just terrible. Love/Frease and heck Redford are going to eat him alive. dayton is the worst 18 plus win team in the nation, no doubt about it.

I HATE dayton.

[JAX 3758]

HAHAHAHA the color guy for CBS sports just referred UD as Xavier multiple times!

Someone get swampy medows on the line! he must be furious

[boozehound]

Huelsman is pitiful.

He has no basketball skills whatsoever.

[Blue Dog]

HAHAHAHA the color guy for CBS sports just called UD Xavier twice!

I caught that too.

Bills keep hanging around. This is the kind of game you can lose on a last second shot.

[PM Thor]

HAHAHAHA the color guy for CBS sports just referred UD as Xavier multiple times!

Someone get swampy medows on the line! he must be furious

That really, really pissed me off.

I HATE dayton.

[JAX 3758]

It really comes down to the simple fact that UD is a better basketball team then SLU

AND if you want to play in march, when you have the chance to play a bad basketball team AT HOME you must put them away

Xavier has that mentality and UD JUST DOESNT

[JAX 3758]

the "72 headed monster" from dayton is now 0-11 from three...

[Blue Dog]

Another stupid play by the Jet.

Gregory is an mediocre to poor offensive coach. Defense is great, but you need both to be a good team and he hasn't got a clue.

[PM Thor]

No body on that block there, terrible no call.

I bet Redford alone will outshoot the entire dayton squad from 3 when we face them.

I HATE dayton.

[JAX 3758]

0-11 from three...

[MFurey]

UD plays great defense, offense is beyond awful

[PM Thor]

0-12 actually, announcer misspoke.

I HATE dayton.

[Blue Dog]

Wright's range is now inside 1 foot.

[golfitup]

Ya know what's funny about this thread? This is probably the first time almost all of us have seen UD play this year because they are NEVER on TV. huh.

[PM Thor]

Ya know what's funny about this thread? This is probably the first time almost all of us have seen UD play this year because they are NEVER on TV. huh.

Add to that the fact that I am sick and completely bored with nothing on TV for me to watch, and here I am watching dayton.

This game completely reminds me of that dayton/Depaul tourney game. It hurts to watch.

I HATE dayton.

[JAX 3758]

nice floater mr johnson

[vee4xu]

34 total second half points for both teams.

[PM Thor]

CWright fouls out with 1:25 left in a tie game.

That is just terrible management by the midget, terrible. You protect Wright as much as you can so he is there at the end. What a bad coach.

I HATE dayton.

[JAX 3758]

wow, what a SLU melt down....

I MEAN, I MEAN...what GUTS UD is showing US!

[vee4xu]

Well the 10.5 spot would have been good. Now if only SLU could put the game in the win column it will be a good night.

[golfitup]

goddamnit St. Louis....

[vee4xu]

Not as frustrating for me because I don't get the channel formerly known as CSTV. Just following online.

[Blue Dog]

Here we go.

Dayton can't score from more than 2 feet from the basket, it's comical.

[PM Thor]

When dayton went into that last half court offense, I knew it would end well, just knew it.

Now if St Loo can win this, I will sleep well.

I HATE dayton.

[vee4xu]

One time SLU. Send those ud fans home with their fingers in their stinkholes (for the ud women, take your pick which one).

[xsteve1]

So close...damn!

[vee4xu]

So close...damn!

ud has been squeeking out wins like this all year. It will all come to a skreeching halt on 2/11.

[gladdenguy]

Escaped another one. 8-0 in games decided by 5 or fewer.
They will be undefeated in games decided by 5 or fewer when they play us, because we will crush them.

[vee4xu]

38 total second half points. ud scored exactly one point per minute and slu less than one point per minute. Pathetic.

[kyxu]

ud has been squeeking out wins like this all year. It will all come to a skreeching halt on 2/11.

If they don't get bounced by SJU, La Salle and/or Charlotte first.

There were so many "four-headed" monsters on the court for UD tonight, I didn't know what I was watching.

One of UD's assistants should be able to give a good re-cap on this one. It too must have been a rivalry game.

[vee4xu]

Oh well. Time to watch the Cavs vs. Magic.

[PM Thor]

And the dayton fans go wild with the one point win vs a very pathetic St. Loo team! That's a combined 4 point difference vs Fordham, St. Loo, and GW (A10 records combined--3-15 now) Man dayton is going to get exposed very soon, very soon. They play St. Joes next....

I HATE dayton.

[XU Fan]

Dayton has proven that they can win close games against shitty teams. Another instant classic tonight. They've barely beaten a whole bunch of crappy teams.

[vee4xu]

Where is the St. Joe's game being played?

[Blue Dog]

It's a home game for UD vee.

Now watch for 5 threads to pop up on UD Pride wondering if tonight's game will get them ranked.

[gladdenguy]

38 total second half points. ud scored exactly one point per minute and slu less than one point per minute. Pathetic.

That is a hilarious stat!!! Thanks for that one. I can't rep you vee. I have to spread it around first.

[vee4xu]

Thanks dog.

As for ud fans, they are living a charade. They are like the 3 year old kid who covers his eyes and feels comfort because he thinks everyone else can't see him. Well ud fans, we all see you and it ain't pretty.

[Cheesehead]

It's a home game for UD vee.

Now watch for 5 threads to pop up on UD Pride wondering if tonight's game will get them ranked.

I refuse to waste my time on a site w/ delusional fans. UD sucks. No way around it. X will expose them soon enough. The game at UD might be close but I think X beats them by 20 at home.

Even my 12 year-old son said, "Wow, Dayton is just not very good."

Smart boy, that one.

[BBC 08]

What so what disease did the ud players have this time around? Suckiness doesn't count. My guess is the clap.

[vee4xu]

What so what disease did the ud players have this time around? Suckiness doesn't count. My guess is the clap.

That is a disease generally associated with men having sex with women. Since ud players prefer melons, getting the clap is not very likely. But, hey maybe one of them got lucky. They sure as hell do on the basketball court.

[X-band '01]

Is it safe to operate heavy machinery now?

[Titanxman04]

What so what disease did the ud players have this time around? Suckiness doesn't count. My guess is the clap.

Actually, I think it's SandInVagItis.

It affects most dayton citizens, no cure, very sad for our little brothers.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Remember when Tommy Liddell was an NBA prospect? Majerus was the worst thing that ever happened to him.

Liddell's defense has improved ten fold under Majerus. Its not Rick's fault that Liddell and Lisch for that matter are shooting terribly from the field this year.

[xavbball]

Now watch for 5 threads to pop up on UD Pride wondering if tonight's game will get them ranked.

Well their "Dayton Top 25" is still active...


" I laugh at the suggestion that we must beat X to get in the tournament. X is a top 10 team that has only lost to Duke and Butler. People are taking Andy Katz's comments too seriously. Sure, our chances greatly improve if we take care of business AND beat X. Duh. We'd have 25+ wins and wins against X and Marquette. That's easy. We still get in if we don't beat X so long as we take care of business. We can't go .500 in the A10 and count on an invite. I agree with others that we need to go at least 10-6 in conference. With at least a couple of conference tourny wins added, we're dancing. Remember, we're ranked around 30 and in everyone's brackets without beating X so far. Losing to X won't kill us. As we all know, it's critical that we don't drop one to Charlotte or Fordham."

They are planning to be ranked next week after they beat St. Joes and and now they believe they will make it into the dance regardless if they beat us. Their piece of shit team almost lost to Fordham AT HOME and tonight they almost lost to St. Louis AT HOME yet they believe their team is top 25? Do they honestly believe voters are going to put them in their top 25 after those games? I just don't get it...if this team (heaven forbid) almost lost to those two teams I wouldn't give a rat's ass about our record and our post-season chances...I would be flat-out embarrassed and wondering what the hell happened. Maybe the water is contaminated in Dayton but somebody tell me they are not serious.

They should be planning on getting their asses handed to them on 2/11 and making the annual trip to the NIT, if anything.

[xunorm]

Being from St. Louis, I occasionally read the StL Post-Dispatch online, and after the Temple game, one NBA scout said they should refund people half the ticket price because only one D-1 school play basketball that night.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/billiken-beat/billiken-beat/2009/01/slu-temple-recap-mitchell-update/


Beating them by 1 is not a good win, and UD will go down in the next couple weeks and needs to win 11 games to make it to the big tourney.

[Masterofreality]

Which was worse:

u dump vs. DePuke- NCAA 2004.

u dump vs. St. Looie last night.

Discuss.....

[The Artist]

What happened to all the talk about how good SLU is going to be? I've now seen them twice. They've looked worse than awful each time.

[Cheesehead]

Dayton Blows. I just can't be too scared of a team that scores in the high 40's. I would have asked for a refund for last night's game too.

[AdamtheFlyer]

I'm taking a "beggers can't be choosers" approach to the rest of the season. At 19-2, we don't have to be good going forward. We just have to be slightly better than the opponent 7-8 more times between now and selection sunday. Weak SOS and all, an A-10 team with 26-27 total wins won't be left out.

[Cheesehead]

Adam,

That's fine but you will have ONE quality win-Marquette... and that's assumming that UD wins those A-10 games and from what I've seen, that's not a sure thing.

I also think Marquette hammers UD if they were to play today. Only time will tell if UD is not a fraud. They haven't proven anything to me yet.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Well their "Dayton Top 25" is still active...



They are planning to be ranked next week after they beat St. Joes and and now they believe they will make it into the dance regardless if they beat us. Their piece of shit team almost lost to Fordham AT HOME and tonight they almost lost to St. Louis AT HOME yet they believe their team is top 25? Do they honestly believe voters are going to put them in their top 25 after those games? I just don't get it...if this team (heaven forbid) almost lost to those two teams I wouldn't give a rat's ass about our record and our post-season chances...I would be flat-out embarrassed and wondering what the hell happened. Maybe the water is contaminated in Dayton but somebody tell me they are not serious.

They should be planning on getting their asses handed to them on 2/11 and making the annual trip to the NIT, if anything.

unfortunately they do. they have one great win in their 19 wins. marquette. I watched the game last night. I like certain players they have. however as a team offensively, just bad. probably half their points came off offensive rebounds. not gonna happen against the x men

[AdamtheFlyer]

I also think Marquette hammers UD if they were to play today.


That's completely irrelevant, and not at all tangible.

[XU 87]

If there is such a thing, UD has to be the worst 18-2 in the country. In the last few games, UD beat Fordam by 1 at UD, they beat GW by 2, and then barely win last night against SLU at home.

Something tells me the Jimmy Carter record will live on.

I wonder if Xavier is nearing some sort of NCAA record for most consecutive home wins against one team.

[Masterofreality]

I'm taking a "beggers can't be choosers" approach to the rest of the season. At 19-2, we don't have to be good going forward. We just have to be slightly better than the opponent 7-8 more times between now and selection sunday. Weak SOS and all, an A-10 team with 26-27 total wins won't be left out.

So here's the diliemma.

A crappy u dump team fakes their way through the season, like GW did a few years ago, gets a mediocre seed and gets smoked in the first round, in probably in worse a game than the previously mentioned game against DePuke that may have been the worst NCAA game ever played other than a 1-16 matchup.

On the one hand, there is a bit more short term money for the league, of which XU will get a pittance, and because of the NCAA berth, the midget buys himself more years on his contract, which is very good for Xavier. On the other hand, the dump, and the league by extension, is embarrassed by a charlatan program thereby damaging future TV contracts and possibilities.

I'm not sure what alternative I want.

[powerofX]

If there is such a thing, UD has to be the worst 18-2 in the country. In the last few games, UD beat Fordam by 1 at UD, they beat GW by 2, and then barely win last night against SLU at home.

Something tells me the Jimmy Carter record will live on.

I wonder if Xavier is nearing some sort of NCAA record for most consecutive home wins against one team.

Not even close to the record...but still fun to talk about Jimmy Carter.

Clemson has NEVER won at UNC...with this year's win UNC is 54-0 at home against Clemson

[AdamtheFlyer]

If there is such a thing, UD has to be the worst 18-2 in the country. In the last few games, UD beat Fordam by 1 at UD, they beat GW by 2, and then barely win last night against SLU at home.

Something tells me the Jimmy Carter record will live on.

I wonder if Xavier is nearing some sort of NCAA record for most consecutive home wins against one team.


Worst 19-2 team in the country.

Better than being the best 12-10 team. The great thing about where UD is right now is that, even if I take the premise that they're a fraud, they still have to lose 4 more games just to fall onto the bubble. If they keep sucking their way right to an 8-2 finish, there will be no questions asked.

[JAX 3758]

Adam

Please tell me again how "much improved" the flyers are from 3 point range.....

And I was wondering where the "four headed monster" you talk of was last night?

[XU 87]

Adam, I stand corrected and agree with you that UD is the worst 19-2 team in the country. But I disagree that they can lose 4 more games before falling onto the bubble. Their RPI is at 39 with only one decent win. They're probably a bubble team right now, although right now I think they're in.

But a few more losses (see Xavier and any a-10 road game) and UD is playing in the No Important Team Tournament (aka the No one Interested Tournament).

[Cheesehead]

That's completely irrelevant, and not at all tangible.

No it's not. Marquette has gotten better since that game while UD has not.....in fact, it could be argued that the Flyers have regressed a bit.

[Cheesehead]

That's completely irrelevant, and not at all tangible.

So, you beleive that UD can beat Wisconsin, NC State, Villanova, West Virginia, Providence, and Notre Dame?

I'm just not sure UD wins ANY of those games right now.

[Frank D.]

Adam, I stand corrected and agree with you that UD is the worst 19-2 team in the country. But I disagree that they can lose 4 more games before falling onto the bubble. Their RPI is at 39 with only one decent win. They're probably a bubble team right now, although right now I think they're in.

But a few more losses (see Xavier and any a-10 road game) and UD is playing in the No Important Team Tournament (aka the No one Interested Tournament).

I agree with you, 87. Dayton would probably be in now, but not by much. If you look at that GW team from a few years ago, they were 26-2, but got an 9 seed(?) because their SOS was horrible (low 200's), with very few quality wins. Granted, Dayton's SOS will probably end up slightly higher simply because they play us twice, but I would argue there isn't a whole lot of room for error.

[AdamtheFlyer]

So, you beleive that UD can beat Wisconsin, NC State, Villanova, West Virginia, Providence, and Notre Dame?

I'm just not sure UD wins ANY of those games right now.

They could beat any of those teams on a neutral floor, yes. And they certainly could beat all of them in UD Arena.

[danaandvictory]

According to Ken Pomeroy's ratings, UD would be an underdog to Cincinnati on a neutral floor.

[dc_x]

Worst 19-2 team in the country.

Better than being the best 12-10 team. The great thing about where UD is right now is that, even if I take the premise that they're a fraud, they still have to lose 4 more games just to fall onto the bubble. If they keep sucking their way right to an 8-2 finish, there will be no questions asked.

Are you serious? An 11-5 A-10 record equals NIT. UD has to finish top-2 in the A-10 to have any chance, which probably means 13-3 or better.

The A-10 is crap this year and there is no way UD gets in if they have a worse conference record than someone like St. Joes or Temple.

[xavbball]

A crappy u dump team fakes their way through the season, like GW did a few years ago, gets a mediocre seed and gets smoked in the first round, in probably in worse a game than the previously mentioned game against DePuke that may have been the worst NCAA game ever played other than a 1-16 matchup.


Exactly. Dayton fans want to play the deception game so they make it into the big dance but what the hell is the point? As you said, they will get smoked in the first round. The deception game isn't going to win you a national championship, sooner or later its going to get you embarrassed.

[xavbball]

They could beat any of those teams on a neutral floor, yes. And they certainly could beat all of them in UD Arena.

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Dayton win by one against Fordham at UD arena? Do you honestly believe your team can win at home against those higher quality teams?

[powerofX]

Just a random opinion on the UD board on how their season will play out. I had to chuckle.......


Constant studying keeps my stress fairly high, so i like to go to my happy place.

SJU- W
LU- W
Char- W
X- W
Rich- W
@RI- L
SLU- W
Temp- W
@X- L
Duq- W

A10 tourney:
1.X v 8.SLU
4.SJU v 5.Temple
2.UD v 7.Duq
3.RI v 6.UMass

1.X v 5.Temp
2.UD v 3.RI

1.X v 2.UD

A10 Champ - UD with a record of (30-4) -----that should get us a 3ish seed

[vee4xu]

A10 Champ - UD with a record of (30-4) -----that should get us a 3ish seed

There is a better chance of the Pope becoming Jewish before March 2009 than the chances of that happening.

[XURunner85]

Honestly seeing what they have left and even though they have 7 home games left, they could lose up to 7 games but probably 4 or 5. They are not good but have been lucky. Even if they can get in the NCAA, they would be 1 and done. They would be playing a 2,3 or 4 team.

[AdamtheFlyer]

I could care less if Dayton gets in thanks to a coin flip as a 16 seed. After 5 years, I'll take anything. It's a step that has to be made. And I feel good about it. I'll keep saying it until people listen...SOS, RPI...all bubble talk. A 26-27 win Dayton team will not be on the bubble, and I think they get that many with a win in the A-10 tourney.

Dayton is a matchup team. When they matchup well with the opponent, they play well. When they don't, it gets ugly. I look at matchups and see that Dayton matches up very well with SJU, La Salle, Charlotte, Duquesne, and Temple because those teams play more up tempo and/or don't have lights out guards. We don't match up well with Richmond, SLU, or URI because they either play really slow or have guards that can light it up. The matchup with X is good enough for a split if they bring the A game at home. Given that Richmond is at home, that's a W. That's 7-3, and SLU should still be another win regardless of matchup. Adjust for the variables and call that one a loss to be safe, WH style.

If they can pull a 7-3, and they certainly can, there will be no bubble talk. 6-4 and they need a win in AC to feel relatively good. A 26 win A10 team has never been left out. There's no reason the believe the committee will start now, especially with the Big East playing out the way it is at this point.

[stophorseabuse]

26 wins for Dayton won't do it if the wins are Lasalle, Charlotte, St. Louis, Richmond, RI, Duquesne and a crappy 1st round A-10 opponent.

Resume would look like this

RPI: 35-45
Marquee win: Marquette (N)
Top 50: 1-2
top 51-100: 3-3
Bad Losses: Umass (160ish rpi)
SOS 150
Quality Road Wins: 0
Last 10: 6-4 or 7-3


Is that a tournament resume?

On the flip side, if Dayton loses a couple I have them winning and instead beats SJ/Temple at home, but loses at say LaSalle and SL they are in big trouble with 3 bad losses.

27 wins for a lock for UD. 26 bubble. 25-burst.

The last game at X COULD be kind of a play in for them--like SJ had with us last year. If they gotta win at X to recieve an At large---uh oh.

Even with 27 wins they are a 9-12 range seed.

If Dayton makes the tournament they would have done enough down the stretch to be worthy of a bid. It's gotta kind of suck though to be 19-2 and know you gotta play your best ball yet or you won't see your name on selection sunday.
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[AdamtheFlyer]

But you're scenario of them winning 4 of 5 on the road goes against everything we know about Dayton basketball going back 20 years. And they aren't going to win only 2 of their last 5 at home, either. If they get to 26 wins, they will have won at least two of the three home games agianst SJU, Temple, and X.

To be honest, I'm more worried about the La Salle and Charlotte road games a lot more than SJU and Temple at home.

[Cheesehead]

They could beat any of those teams on a neutral floor, yes. And they certainly could beat all of them in UD Arena.

REally? UD can barely beat second-tier A-10 teams at home. You're blinded by your enthusiasm for your team. All I can say I'm really looking forward to XU-UD game. I have my broom ready.

[AdamtheFlyer]

REally? UD can barely beat second-tier A-10 teams at home. You're blinded by your enthusiasm for your team. All I can say I'm really looking forward to XU-UD game. I have my broom ready.

And you don't think you just slightly biased yourself?

Come on, you're insulting your own intelligence at this point.

[Cheesehead]

No, I'm a realist and I see XU's weaknesses. I still have my broom waiting.

[AdamtheFlyer]

Yeah, I wasn't taking about X in relation to your bias.

[Cheesehead]

Yeah, I wasn't taking about X in relation to your bias.

Ok, so you expect me to like UD? Come on now, Adam. This is a Xavier board.

[AdamtheFlyer]

Ok, so you expect me to like UD? Come on now, Adam. This is a Xavier board.

I don't expect you to like them. I expect you to understand the glass house you're living in before casting stones. I've been far more reasonable on UD than the overwhelming majority of people that post in these threads, yourself included.

[Cheesehead]

I don't expect you to like them. I expect you to understand the glass house you're living in before casting stones. I've been far more reasonable on UD than the overwhelming majority of people that post in these threads, yourself included.

Glass houses? Ok, whatever. You are reasonable but I just don't think UD is that good. There's really nothing you can say to convince me otherwise; unless of course, they beat X. There's a reason UD is not ranked (I will admit it's possible they could crack the top 25, happy?) and their SOS isn't as good as X.

I keep waiting for UD's year but it hasn't happened in quite a while. I wish for the sake of the A-10 they would be a better program. They were great back in the day but not so much, the past 20-25 years. That's not XU's fault and that's not my fault. That's just the facts.

[XURunner85]

UD is just not that good. They are barely winning games at home against teams that are terrible this year. I beleive UD will struggle the rest of the year. Games they win at home will be close games all the way to the end. They won't get far in A10 tourney maybe one game. If they were to get into the NCAA tourney, it will be a how do you do oh you have to leave game. I am looking at this realistically, they have been lucky so far with squeekers but it won't last. Hey X use to be in that possition long time ago where they would squeek one or two out and we thought we should be in but did not get the invite to the dance. Now we play harder schedules have a great coaching staff and respect. But that comes with 25 years of eXcellence. See there is no eXcellence in Dayton, there is no X in Dayton.