Georgia Fires Felton [Archive] - Xavier Message Board

Masterofreality

01-29-2009, 10:41 AM

Unbelieveable. I seem to remember that Georgia made the NCAA's last year. Georgia wasn't exactly in great condition when Felton got there. There were all kinds of problems.

All coaches with great jobs who are loved at their schools (Sean Miller) take notice. It is really cuttthroat out there. The grass isn't always greener (Bob Staak).

ATL Muskie

01-29-2009, 10:42 AM

Been hearing rumblings for some time now. Didn't think they would actually pull the trigger. Crazy.

GoMuskies

01-29-2009, 10:43 AM

Unbelieveable. I seem to remember that Georgia made the NCAA's last year.

All coaches with great jobs who are loved at their schools (Sean Miller) take notice. It is really cuttthroat out there. The grass isn't always greener (Bob Staak).

C'mon. It was a miracle they made the Tournament after having an atrocious season. And they've followed that up with another atrocious season. Felton's firing is plenty justified.

coasterville95

01-29-2009, 10:46 AM

And the coaching carousel starts to turn, that's two SEC openings so far. Neither of those at attractive programs.

I thought schools used to wait till the day after you have coached your final game of the season to do this sort of thing. It used to be more civilized.

bourbonman

01-29-2009, 10:47 AM

C'mon. It was a miracle they made the Tournament after having an atrocious season. And they've followed that up with another atrocious season. Felton's firing is plenty justified.

You beat me to it. He was gone last year until GA ran the table in the SEC tourney that was much delayed due to the storm damage at the dome. He was hanging on by a thread.

ATL Muskie

01-29-2009, 10:48 AM

I think it's less about X's and O's and more about his actually trying to clean up Harrick's mess and instill some discipline. He had no problem suspending players or booting trouble off the team, yet that did him no favors in the W column, especially w/ UT, UK and FLA in his own division. he was handcuffed from Day 1. I think Felton is a fine coach and will do well where he is supported by the university. UGA wanted him to clean up a mess, but win while doing it. That wasn't going to happen.

XU05and07

01-29-2009, 10:50 AM

What's up with coaches getting canned in the middle of the season? I thought that only happened in the pros

XUglow

01-29-2009, 11:27 AM

He had been given plenty of time to make something happen, and nothing was happening. Being in the SEC East, I don't think the AD expects titles every year, but UGA should at least expect to field a competitive team. Georgia is clearly the worst program in the SEC right now, and that is saying something when you put a program behind Auburn.

Hugh Durham took them to a final four. Tubby had good years there. Harrick was looking good, but wrecked that program. Felton, it turns out, just wasn't a good choice to put things back together.

I am wondering if people are murmuring Tubby's name for a possible return.

Blue Dog

01-29-2009, 03:41 PM

First Gottfried, now Felton.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-georgia-feltonfired&prov=ap&type=lgns

Not sure how this kind of thing plays out with possible replacement coaches, but I don't see how it helps. Just reminds a guy like Sean how good he has it here.

Titanxman04

01-30-2009, 09:03 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3870714

Georgia and Alabama. I think Miller has a much better situation here. Why in the world would he go to either of those two schools? All football schools that don't care about their basketball programs!

XUfaninJAX

01-30-2009, 09:04 AM

Not worried about anything happening at all with the SEC schools, but you knew Miller's name would get thrown around.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3870714

XUfaninJAX

01-30-2009, 09:05 AM

If I wasn't trying so hard to spell correctly... I would have posted it first.

ATL Muskie

01-30-2009, 09:15 AM

Will never happen. Pure speculation, as the scribes often do. Miller will never go to a football school to coach.

Muskie

01-30-2009, 09:15 AM

Firing coaches in the beginning or middle of the season guarantees a problem of removing an interim tag from the replacement, if the team plays well. Let's be honest... the team can't play worse.

klark

01-30-2009, 09:24 AM

I just think his name came up since he has been winning, it sounds like they already have a wishlist. ANd I agree, I don't think this is a job he would be interested in.

X-man

01-30-2009, 09:26 AM

Miler's name will always come up in these kinds of situations; all it means is that (1) he's a helluva coach, and (2) he coaches at that (you know...mid-major) program called Xavier. It means nothing more than that.

Masterofreality

01-30-2009, 09:28 AM

His name came up for South Carolina last year too and was squashed quickly. He ain't goin' south, no way no how.

XUglow

01-30-2009, 09:34 AM

I don't see Miller headed to the SEC at all. It is flattering to have his name mentioned though. Xavier has certainly come up in the world in this part of the world over the past few years.

MADXSTER

01-30-2009, 09:38 AM

"Miller Mentioned in article for Coaching Jobs"

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Cheesehead

01-30-2009, 09:38 AM

I was mesmorized by Glow's changing Avator...

Sean will not leave for either of these programs. It's not a good situation for him even if they were to offer him more $$$. He's in very good place right now with the opportunity to do something very special within the next 2-3 years w/ the recruits he has coming into the program. I just don't see Sean leaving for the SEC.

coasterville95

01-30-2009, 09:56 AM

I agree that I don't think we have to worry about Sean considering either of those two programs. Georgia is surely a fixer-uper handyman special, and Alabama is so second fiddle to football its not even funny. So is Georgia for that matter, even if they do promise a commitment. Not only would he be getting a handyman's special at Georgia, be second class to football and all that, the pay isn't that much more than we're paying him. Don't see it happening, but thanks for the free publicity for our program in a round about way.

I also hope they don't steal Tubby away from Minnesota, okay let me disclose that I am a Gophers fan through my friends, and even though the current edition of the Gophers still have some kinks to work out, I can see a definite improvement. This year they broke their Jimmy Carter, by winning at Wisconsin for the first time in over a decade, and also notched wins against the Hoosiers and the Fighting Illini that haven't come to them in some time. Not the least of which, they pounded Ohio State earlier this season. Seeing Tubby win, and Matta lose, does it get better? Give Tubby a couple more years at Minnesota and he will have a great program going.

I was hoping they would play in the NCAA's at UD Arena but the bracketology has changed, I could have been talked into that. (I now see Thor writhing in pain as I mention voluntarily going to UD Arena)

muskienick

01-30-2009, 10:13 AM

"Miller will never go to a football school."

Pittsburgh, Coach Miller's alma mater, has a BCS football program. Who could blame him for taking that job if Jamie Dixon ever decides to go elsewhere?

Xman95

01-30-2009, 10:14 AM

Did anyone notice this in Forde Minutes?

Oregon (10). The coach: Ernie Kent. The problem: Sustained success has been elusive, never more than in Kent's 12th season in Eugene. He's hit some real high notes: twice reaching the NCAA Elite Eight, twice winning the Pac-10 tournament, once winning the Pac-10 regular-season title. But there have been about as many low notes: more losing seasons than winning seasons in league play, and this season's grisly 0-8 Pac-10 start. There might be mutual relationship fatigue for fans and the coach.

Perhaps Ari Stewart will regret that decision. Don't get me wrong. I'm not wishing bad things on the kid and I don't hope his decision turns into a huge mistake. Just pointing out that he could wind up at a school in freakin' Oregon, now without the coach he wanted to play for. And a new coach could mean a complete overhaul of the program and a couple down years. It's not guaranteed, but possible.

Now, Miller's name is always being bounced around so it's possible he leaves. But, if he does, there's a chance that Chris Mack is next in line. So there's still a connection to the previous group. And, even if he's not the guy, it seems X always has the same standards and environment, regardless of the coach.

Here's another way to look at it: at Oregon, a coaching change this year means the program is slipping and the powers that be aren't happy. At X, a change means the program is still climbing and the coach is somewhere else because of the team's success, not failure.

OK, maybe I just have way too much empty space in my head and these thoughts are allowed to bounce around way, way too long!

Xman95

01-30-2009, 10:20 AM

I was hoping they would play in the NCAA's at UD Arena but the bracketology has changed, I could have been talked into that. (I now see Thor writhing in pain as I mention voluntarily going to UD Arena)

Thor is probably plotting your demise as I type this! You might want to be careful before you start your car. And maybe check under your bed before you go to sleep.

Thor doesn't take this type of UD mistake lightly.

Oh, check your closets too.

GoMuskies

01-30-2009, 10:21 AM

"Miller will never go to a football school."

Pittsburgh, Coach Miller's alma mater, has a BCS football program. Who could blame him for taking that job if Jamie Dixon ever decides to go elsewhere?

Pitt is certainly not a "football school" in the mode of Alabama or Georgia. Even though they were pretty good this year, they played home games in a generally half-empty Heinz Field. Not exactly the same fervor as the fans between the Hedges or at Bryant-Denny.

coasterville95

01-30-2009, 10:24 AM

Does it help me case if I add that it would be a chance to see UDump Arena WITHOUT having my visit marred by seeing the Flyers. (Who, if they follow their usual trend would be in the stands watching the game as well)

ATL Muskie

01-30-2009, 10:24 AM

Pitt is certainly not a "football school" in the mode of Alabama or Georgia. Even though they were pretty good this year, they played home games in a generally half-empty Heinz Field. Not exactly the same fervor as the fans between the Hedges or at Bryant-Denny.

Beat me to it Go. That's certainly what I meant by "football school."

Xaveriana

01-30-2009, 10:51 AM

Will UGA truly aim big in its coaching search -- or take the normal SEC route?
By Mark Schlabach

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0129/ncb_split_panel1_sw_576.jpg

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3870714

From today's ESPN article..."The Bulldogs are setting their sights high: Oklahoma's Jeff Capel, who might command twice as much in salary as Felton, is believed to be at the top of their wish list of potential replacements.

Xavier's Sean Miller, UNLV's Lon Kruger, Baylor's Scott Drew and Virginia Commonwealth's Anthony Grant also might be considered for the job. Even Smith, who left Georgia for Kentucky in 1997, might be contacted about the Bulldogs' opening."

danaandvictory

01-30-2009, 11:23 AM

I hear Georgia is also considering Mike Krzyzewski, John Wooden, Pope Gregory I, and Jesus Christ for its coaching job.

(All of which are about as likely as them getting Capel, Miller, or Smith)

XUglow

01-30-2009, 11:41 AM

Pitt is certainly not a "football school" in the mode of Alabama or Georgia. Even though they were pretty good this year, they played home games in a generally half-empty Heinz Field. Not exactly the same fervor as the fans between the Hedges or at Bryant-Denny.

I am guessing there are more people on Bama and UGA campuses that don't get into the game than there are people that go to Pitt games.

MD Muskie

01-30-2009, 12:23 PM

i have to agree that neither of these two schools seem like a logical destination for Miller. He is a northerner and that is where he will end up. PLus let's all be honest here, basketball to those two schools is the fourth most important program to them behind Football season, spring football season, and football recruiting season.

xavierj

01-30-2009, 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=Xman95;89673]Did anyone notice this in Forde Minutes?

Oregon (10). The coach: Ernie Kent. The problem: Sustained success has been elusive, never more than in Kent's 12th season in Eugene. He's hit some real high notes: twice reaching the NCAA Elite Eight, twice winning the Pac-10 tournament, once winning the Pac-10 regular-season title. But there have been about as many low notes: more losing seasons than winning seasons in league play, and this season's grisly 0-8 Pac-10 start. There might be mutual relationship fatigue for fans and the coach.

Perhaps Ari Stewart will regret that decision.

Ari signed with Wake, not Oregon.

XUglow

01-30-2009, 12:33 PM

MD, I have invitations on my desk for recruiting parties on signing day for Ole Miss, MSU, Alabama, and LSU. Recruiting in the SEC has been a real eye-opener for Lane Kiffin. He said that at USC, they went in and presented their case, and they got a whole lot of good recruits. He is amazed at how cut-throat it is in the SEC, and he cannot believe how "into it" the fans are. If a prized recruit goes to Wendys, people will be asking exactly what it meant that he went to Wendys rather than McDonalds. Someone will swear that they overheard him say he was considering dropping his commitment to Bama because he really likes the coaches at LSU or some other nonsense. When this happens all hell will break loose between the fans of the 2 schools. It is pretty entertaining if you remain unaffiliated and like verbal sparring.

Masterofreality

01-30-2009, 12:59 PM

Here's what is more important to me. In Glow's rotating avatar, which of the pics are of Miss Muskie? I'm enthralled and captivated. It is the hair extensions that do it.

Starting with the beautiful aqua bikini clad blonde (#1) I guess:

#1, #2, #5 and #6. #4 is a beautiful black and white, but I think that's just a throw in to decieve us.

There, now I have successfully hijacked this ridiculous thread.:p

XUglow

01-30-2009, 01:22 PM

MOR, the 2 dog pictures and the yellow bikini. Faith is in the aqua bikini. (She had the same plastic surgeon as Miss Muskie, though.) The Dane is having fun in the surf. The "model" is just not amused with the random shot, but I thought it was priceless. The b/w is a gal from Bama that I know. She was actually supposed to go out on the town with Mr. Neutral in Chicago a while back, but she bailed on him for some reason. Never quite got the full story on that one.

Masterofreality

01-30-2009, 02:36 PM

The b/w is a gal from Bama that I know. She was actually supposed to go out on the town with Mr. Neutral in Chicago a while back, but she bailed on him for some reason. Never quite got the full story on that one.

Well, Neutral is a classmate, and a dear friend of mine. He's a good guy no matter what some on the boards think of him. He is a glass half-empty guy, however, from way back. Too bad it didn't happen. She would have certainly made him a happier man.

Xman95

01-30-2009, 09:27 PM

waggy

01-30-2009, 11:57 PM

Edit: Nevermind, someone already posted the article above. D'oh! Apologies...

utahmuskie

01-31-2009, 02:25 AM

kmcrawfo

01-31-2009, 02:28 AM

Just one of many mentions that don't mean anything but thought I would share the link

There is also a pic of Miller, Capel & Tubby on the main men's page pimping the article.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3870714

Someone please explain to me why Miller's name keeps coming up for jobs at obviously inferior programs?

Why in the heck would he even think for a second of going to Georgia?

Heck, I don't even know if he would get paid anymore then he is getting at X based on what the article says.

MuskieMark

01-31-2009, 02:31 AM

its 2:30 in the mornign right now and i am a bit (very) drunk right now but i dont give a f who they put on their list because sean is not going there

waggy

01-31-2009, 02:41 AM

Already in another thread, and I will merge shortly... http://www.xavierhoops.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8076

waggy

01-31-2009, 03:38 AM

On second thought maybe this should become the colossal "Sean Miller mentioned for XYZ head coach position" thread, and we can dump all them in one place.

mr. zimpher

01-31-2009, 06:54 AM

hahahahaha... georgia... hahahahahahaha

xubball93

01-31-2009, 07:12 AM

When are these numbskulls going to get it that Sean is destined to win the National Championship at XAVIER UNIVERSITY?!

X-band '01

01-31-2009, 09:09 AM

Tubby Smith is starting to get PO's himself about the questions - he's not about to leave Minnesota anytime soon, and it would be foolish for him to return to UGA where he already has a Sweet 16 in the bank.

Masterofreality

01-31-2009, 10:06 AM

Another lazy-ass article on B-Espn. Forgive my conspiracy theory, but it almost seems like B-Espn is now following the lead of some Cincinnati area scribes and pharisees- trying to promote Sean Miller leaving town so they can brush off little ol' Xavier again. I guess they think that if they print enough sh8 that it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Why do I say lazy? If the reporter did any research, he'd know a couple of things. A) Sean Miller has a huge contract buy-out that Sean himself put in to his deal with XU. B) Sean Miller is already making over $1million a year at Xavier.

Wow. Georgia is willing to make a committment to paying their basketball coach $1 milllion a year for the first time. Damn. That is some lure. Maybe Mark Few is interested? How about Kevin O'Neill? Bring back Steve Lappas.

I'm sure that Sean is just chomping at the bit to take a pay cut- and take a crappier job as well. Nothing like downward mobility to impress the family.

Hey Schlabach. Your name should be Schla-HACK!!!