Jeremiah Davis - PG

[Lamont Sanford]

Chane Behanan
Aiken H.S.
Cincinnati, OH

Also being looked at by UC, OSU, etc.

[PM Thor]

Xavier and UC have both offered this kid.

A guy in my firehouse has a son who has played with this kid. He raves about Chane, and he is a pretty good judge of skills. Apparently X has been on Chane for awhile now, getting in early to try to get him to look at us closely. He has said that this kid will probably the #1 to come out of Cincy in '11.

I have been putting a bug in my co workers ear about his son too. Sounds as if he is pretty good (dominating games, blah blah blah, worrying that it might be fatherly bluster though). While really young, I am going to go see a couple of his games later...

[Lamont Sanford]

I just hope that since former XU PG Steve Gentry is his current HS coach at Aiken it helps in the recruiting process. It didn't seem to work on Yancy Gates with former X standout Walt McBride coaching him however.

[Eastside_J]

Might want to move him to the (Commit Other) category. Chane verballed today.

[_LH]

Is that verbal UC got from the kid from LaSalle still coming to UC? I'm not certain Mick will even be the coach at UC in 2011.

[bearcat65]

Is that verbal UC got from the kid from LaSalle still coming to UC? I'm not certain Mick will even be the coach at UC in 2011.

If he keeps landing kids like this he will be.

[_LH]

He has not landed him yet. He is only "landed" when he signs an LOI. Mick needs to win 20 games this year and make the NCAA's in 2010 or he is gone.

[PM Thor]

I honestly didn't want to say anything about this earlier, but from my limited sources (note above post), Chane has been leaning towards UC for a long time, and this "commitment" shouldn't be much of a surprise at all. Good get for UC.

[Arnold Horshack]

Wow, we should be getting the best local guys by all rights.

[xeus]

Wow, we should be getting the best local guys by all rights.

Why do you say that?

I think Sean is doing an amazing job recruiting.

[xufan02]

Landing local talent is the lifeblood of any program, but Xavier can not get all of them. We get our fair share but sometimes you just need players that fit certain needs or provide a skill set your local talent does not have. Good get for UC, this kid is a stud from everything I have read. In the 2011 class Xavier needs guards anyways.

[Cincy Muskie]

Yeah nice pickup for the 'Cats. Hopefully it works out for the best for everybody involved.

[Eastside_J]

Why do you say that?

I think Sean is doing an amazing job recruiting.

Yeah,
And I think local recruiting is a plus but not the be-all-end-all.

The most important thing is to get a high percentage of the guys you most want. If some of those are local, great.

I think you guys have been getting a good percentage of the guys you most want and yeah, some of them have been local (or nearly local in the case of Jackson, Frease).

[Arnold Horshack]

Why do you say that?

I think Sean is doing an amazing job recruiting.

I think that local recruiting gives us the free edge with the great players who want to stay in this area. Our recent record speaks for itself when stacked up to UC. That's why I expected us to have more pull with the locals. I like the prospects in NY and ATL, but I don't feel like we are going to hit on a high percentage of those good players because we are just another school on their list with no special connections.

[xeus]

I think that local recruiting gives us the free edge with the great players who want to stay in this area.

Huh?


That's why I expected us to have more pull with the locals.

We have recruited local kids very very well - we made the Elite 8 last year with the lion's share of the minutes going to kids who went to high school within 100 miles of D'artagnan.

If you are trying to make a point solely with respect to Yancy and Chane, as Eastside said X is not going to win every recruiting battle.

Mick Cronin is a very skilled recruiter, UC is a Big East program, and the past few years aside will continue to be a formidable recruiting opponent.


I like the prospects in NY and ATL, but I don't feel like we are going to hit on a high percentage of those good players because we are just another school on their list with no special connections.

I trust Sean to weigh the risk/benefit of going after kids in other regions. As far as "special connections" I think our program speaks for itself, and kids will either want to be a part or not. No "special connections" needed, although if they are there they never hurt.

[Arnold Horshack]

Huh?



We have recruited local kids very very well - we made the Elite 8 last year with the lion's share of the minutes going to kids who went to high school within 100 miles of D'artagnan.

If you are trying to make a point solely with respect to Yancy and Chane, as Eastside said X is not going to win every recruiting battle.

Mick Cronin is a very skilled recruiter, UC is a Big East program, and the past few years aside will continue to be a formidable recruiting opponent.



I trust Sean to weigh the risk/benefit of going after kids in other regions. As far as "special connections" I think our program speaks for itself, and kids will either want to be a part or not. No "special connections" needed, although if they are there they never hurt.

Huh? We disagree on every point. UC is formidable, but I think we should be able to hit on some of the big locals with regularity, especially considering how healthy our performance has been recently. Who was our last really big local recruit? I would say it was Josh Duncan.

[Juice]

I personally think that as far as public school Cincinnati kids go, UC will win most times.

[xeus]

Huh? We disagree on every point. UC is formidable, but I think we should be able to hit on some of the big locals with regularity, especially considering how healthy our performance has been recently. Who was our last really big local recruit? I would say it was Josh Duncan.

Our performance has been healthier than UC's for the past 25 years, but that doesn't mean we are going to pick up the "big locals" with regularity. Some kids aren't right for X - I'd put Yancy in that category - even though we recruited him, he probably made a better decision going to UC.

Again, this is a nice get for UC, but that doesn't make it a big miss for Xavier. I for one am very impressed with the job Mick has done putting the Cats back together - but I am more impressed with what Sean is building, local kids or not.

[wkrq59]

I don't know the kid or purport to know him. He'd be a recruit for the 11-12 class or the 10-11??? This kid's a freshman or sophomore?
I point out one fact no other poster on this thread has asked about. What kind of grades does he have?
Remember, Adrian Graves had a helluva rough time not only adjusting to college live, he had to make a major leap in the academic area.
That is not a knock on the CPS, but I keep reading stories about how eighth graders and high school seniors are scoring low on basic achievement tests. I point out that Xavier has rather tough academic standards and that has to be taken into consideration when we're talking about recruiting.
Besides, commitments made by freshmen and sophomores are as worthwhile as love vows exchanged by eighth graders. :D

[Juice]

The kid is going to be a sophomore or just finished his sophomore year I believe, and Q I agree with your point on the academics. The kid goes to Aiken, which is a pretty miserable school. I know nothing about him or his academic standing but knowing what I do about Aiken I definitely think there would be a much bigger adjustment period at X then there would be at UC. That is why I think UC has an advantage over X for the Cincinnati Public kids, obviously with some exceptions.

[kyxu]

The kid is going to be a sophomore or just finished his sophomore year I believe, and Q I agree with your point on the academics. The kid goes to Aiken, which is a pretty miserable school. I know nothing about him or his academic standing but knowing what I do about Aiken I definitely think there would be a much bigger adjustment period at X then there would be at UC. That is why I think UC has an advantage over X for the Cincinnati Public kids, obviously with some exceptions.

In all fairness, if you're going to question this kid's "adjustment period" to college because of the high school he attended, then you should be concerned about Holloway.

[PM Thor]

Thank you Q. We shouldn't worry about a kids school, considering our support structure at X, and how we can help kids. I think it is an unfair assumption to say a kid won't perform academically simply because they come from a poor school.

I won't undercut this kids decision. He felt good going to UC, and I respect that. Wish that he would have chosen X, but hey, maybe he would have been buried on the depth charts here and gotten more minutes at UC.

Who knows his motivation? I wish him well, except for the games vs X.

[Juice]

In all fairness, if you're going to question this kid's "adjustment period" to college because of the high school he attended, then you should be concerned about Holloway.

I have posted before my thoughts on Harmony, which obviously I would not expect anybody to remember. I think the school is bootleg as hell and yes I have some concern, but this Aiken kid was the topic at hand.

My whole point on the Cincinnati Public is that many of the schools are terrible, while many are not, but when kids come from the bad ones where academics are not stressed what so ever and athletics are first, I wonder how a kid will respond when he actually has to meet grades and requirements.

Aiken is bad, Withrow is better but not good by any stretch, and Hughes is bad as well. I name these schools because of this kid, Gates, and Graves. Harmony seems to be an athletic safe haven for troubled kids looking to buy a year so they can clear grades and/or their criminal record before they can enroll in college.

[wkrq59]

I meant no slight to the kid or to Aiken High School which was at one time a very good school with a high quality reputation.
Kids who come from Walnut Hills High School enter a university with a leg up on the competition from other Cincinnati Public High schools.
As a rule, the young men and women from many of the suburban schools and all of the private and for the most part parochial school kids know how to study, how to budget their time, and have a certain capability in the basics--reading, writing, simple and sometimes advanced math and science.
I will cite you a perfect example of a student athlete--an outstanding one, who was one of the most sought after kids in the city. He chose UC which he had always followed and liked. In his CPS high school classes he got As and Bs and was on the honor roll.
He enrolled in the school of design, art and architecture hoping to become an architect. He lasted two or three weeks in that school and had to change his major, his courses and it was a struggle for him to become eligible by the third quarter. He was one of the brightest and nicest kids I ever had the pleasure of meeting.
Admittedly, he should have had the benefit of an academic counseling service that, while not comparable to Sister Rose Ann, would nevertheless have been of benefit to him.
I would never assume that because a kid comes from a CPS without a Walnut Hills reputation that he is somehow educationally flawed.
While this may sound like heresy, I believe we should stop assuming that Sister Rose Ann and her program can continue to work some of the damn near miracles she has. And I don't just mean keeping a player eligible. I mean making sure the student in student athlete is first and the ultimate goal of earning a degree is realized. Remember, Xavier's objective is not to prepare young men for the NBA or any other lucrative job playing basketball in a foreign country.
I think we cast a bad light on ourselves if we focus on the athletic numbers and have a tendency to put the main purpose of Xavier University in an room off the parlor.
I also think that when we begin to talk about sophomores and their "commitments" to any university, we enter a very risky area. The Monsere kid from Moeller is a perfect example. He committed to Notre Dame before his sophomore year. He ended up doing well at Butler, but had a bit of a bumpy ride before he did.
As has been pointed out previously on this thread, the only true commitment occurs after the LOI is signed.:D

[bearcat65]

He has not landed him yet. He is only "landed" when he signs an LOI. Mick needs to win 20 games this year and make the NCAA's in 2010 or he is gone.

Given he can't sign a letter of intent yet this is the next best thing. If UC wins 20 games this year they will in all liklihood make the NCAA's. I'm not a betting man but I would say Cronin will be at UC for quite a while.

[kyxu]

I have posted before my thoughts on Harmony, which obviously I would not expect anybody to remember. I think the school is bootleg as hell and yes I have some concern, but this Aiken kid was the topic at hand.

My whole point on the Cincinnati Public is that many of the schools are terrible, while many are not, but when kids come from the bad ones where academics are not stressed what so ever and athletics are first, I wonder how a kid will respond when he actually has to meet grades and requirements.

Aiken is bad, Withrow is better but not good by any stretch, and Hughes is bad as well. I name these schools because of this kid, Gates, and Graves. Harmony seems to be an athletic safe haven for troubled kids looking to buy a year so they can clear grades and/or their criminal record before they can enroll in college.

If we're going to put these Cincinnati Public Schools on a grading scale, I'd say Harmony is somewhere near the bottom. I've never read any news article where the state or the board of education was trying to shut down Aiken for not actually teaching kids anything (like Harmony).

As far as we're concerned, Holloway and Behannon (sp?) are model students. So if none of us know Chane's academic performance at Aiken, then we shouldn't use the fact that he goes to Aiken as a sign that he'll struggle in college when we've had several players that have come from more than questionable preparatory institutions. I didn't see anyone on this board questioning whether Holloway would make the grade when he committed.

I love Xavier, but this idea that it's Harvard or Yale compared to UC is delusional. As someone has mentioned before, if the kid works hard enough, he can get a quality education anywhere, whether it's UC, XU, OSU or Wright State.

[Juice]

If we're going to put these Cincinnati Public Schools on a grading scale, I'd say Harmony is somewhere near the bottom. I've never read any news article where the state or the board of education was trying to shut down Aiken for not actually teaching kids anything (like Harmony).

As far as we're concerned, Holloway and Behannon (sp?) are model students. So if none of us know Chane's academic performance at Aiken, then we shouldn't use the fact that he goes to Aiken as a sign that he'll struggle in college when we've had several players that have come from more than questionable preparatory institutions. I didn't see anyone on this board questioning whether Holloway would make the grade when he committed.

I love Xavier, but this idea that it's Harvard or Yale compared to UC is delusional. As someone has mentioned before, if the kid works hard enough, he can get a quality education anywhere, whether it's UC, XU, OSU or Wright State.

I agree, I think Harmony is worse than Aiken, and I think Harmony should be shut down. And I also agree that you can get a great education at UC, and for some kids it is definitely a better place for them. My point is when it comes to the basketball team, XU pays more attention to academics than UC, and I wonder how high school basketball players who are the kings of their school handle that transition where they cannot skate by as much. I believe more leniency is given at UC than XU when it comes to the academics of the basketball team, and obviously many might disagree.

[Eastside_J]

maybe he would have been buried on the depth charts here and gotten more minutes at UC.

Wha?

Now I have heard it all. Yancy went from "must have" last year to "better fit at UC". And now Behanan would be buried on the depth chart at X?

C'mon now, is that necessary? A few weeks ago you were putting "a bug in the ear" of a friend tied to Chane, hoping to add some persuasion. Now he would be a scrub?

Good thing the "bug" didn't work :D

Last year when Holloway was offered and visited, I had hoped Mick would ink him. I would have been happy about getting Holloway, I think he will be a good PG. Same goes for Kemba Walker, who ended up going to UCONN. Turns out that was neither was meant to be. A little later he signed Cashmere Wright. Wright was another PG on the target list of high quality, highly desirable players. I am completely happy UC signed Cashmere Wright and think he will be a good PG.

[_LH]

65,

Ask Syracuse fans what 20 wins get you.

Mick will only be at UC if he wins 20 this year and makes the NCAA's at least once in the next two seasons. If he fails, say goodbye to Mick.

[xufan02]

Chane is a great get for UC and Xavier fans would be happy to have him on our team. I hate very early verbals because something usually happens and the player will go elsewhere. Take for instance Nate Miles, Xavier landed him in the summer of 2005 for the class of 2008. Miles verballed on 5/11/05, transfered from Toledo Libbey to Oak Hill, then transfered back to Libbey, March of 2006 he opens up his recruitment and transfers to a school in San Antonio, TX. He spent one year in San Antonio and then transfers to NC for school after verballing with UConn. I think the chances of Chane sticking with UC is much greater because he wants to stay local, but I'm sure there will be some twists and turns UC fans will have to go through before he signs on the dotted line.

[Eastside_J]

Chane is a great get for UC and Xavier fans would be happy to have him on our team. I hate very early verbals because something usually happens and the player will go elsewhere. Take for instance Nate Miles, Xavier landed him in the summer of 2005 for the class of 2008. Miles verballed on 5/11/05, transfered from Toledo Libbey to Oak Hill, then transfered back to Libbey, March of 2006 he opens up his recruitment and transfers to a school in San Antonio, TX. He spent one year in San Antonio and then transfers to NC for school after verballing with UConn. I think the chances of Chane sticking with UC is much greater because he wants to stay local, but I'm sure there will be some twists and turns UC fans will have to go through before he signs on the dotted line.

Ha!

Beyond an early commitment, there are zero similarities to Nate Miles.

Chane has strong, supportive parents who care about and are incredibly involved in his academic and basketball future. This is not some troubled role model-less kid.

Anything can happen. But considering the environment around him, his chances of success are extremely high.

[_LH]

Just leave it as "anything can happen".

[bearcat65]

65,

Ask Syracuse fans what 20 wins get you.

Mick will only be at UC if he wins 20 this year and makes the NCAA's at least once in the next two seasons. If he fails, say goodbye to Mick.

Ask them about their OOC schedule that year. 20 wins for a Big East team that has a decent OOC schedule more times than not will make the tourney. I'm not worried about Mick, I think he'll be around for a long time.

[MADXSTER]

I think that Mick will be around a long time as well. He's a gym rat and a recruiting rat(meant as a compliment). He was a great recruiter for Huggins. Pitino stole him because he is such a great recruiter. He did very well at Murray St.

It doesn't surprise me that he got Chane. I'm surprised he committed as early as he did though.

[_LH]

65,

20 wins is not what it used to be and has not been a guarantee for an NCAA invite for over 5 years, especially in the BE.

Mick will need UC to win at least 20 this year and make the NCAA's at least once in the next two years to save his job.

Many were not thrilled with the hire and to date, Mick has done little to keep his job. These next two years are crucial for him.

[bearcat65]

65,

20 wins is not what it used to be and has not been a guarantee for an NCAA invite for over 5 years, especially in the BE.

Mick will need UC to win at least 20 this year and make the NCAA's at least once in the next two years to save his job.

Many were not thrilled with the hire and to date, Mick has done little to keep his job. These next two years are crucial for him.

Hopefully they win 20 games then. I'd like to see Cronin stay around and keep getting kids like Chane.

[_LH]

I think Cronin is a good fit for UC. Out of all the DI coaches out there right now, he is the only one that would not leave UC after making them semi successful.

Just for the record, Cronin won't "get" Chane until he signs and LOI.

[Eastside_J]

I think Cronin is a good fit for UC. Out of all the DI coaches out there right now, he is the only one that would not leave UC after making them semi successful.

Just for the record, Cronin won't "get" Chane until he signs and LOI.

That is what people said about Yancy too. He committed early and signed despite Mattah,err,aah.. calling and texting him all the way up to and including the day he signed his LOI.

Regarding Cronin- Yeah I am sure there are a lot of coaches that have completely rebuilt a team from having one D1 player to having a roster full of top 100, high 3, 4 and 5 star guys.

Or forget the troubled status of the program,

Name two other coaches in College BB that in their third year on the job can put a starting lineup on the floor made up completely of 4 and 5 star players, none of which were inherited.

Yeah I think he will be here awhile. Which is good or bad news depending on ones POV.

[_LH]

I'm not saying he won't sign, I'm simply saying he HASN'T signed. I am sure you know the difference. I am not sure what Yancy has to do with it though. Are they the same person. Does Yancy decide what this kid will do in 3 years? Is Yancy his dad or legal guardian?

Cronin's grace period is over. The next two years are what he will be judged on, not the last two, so I'm not sure what your history lesson has to do with anything. If Cronin does not come through in the next two seasons, he will be fired.

[xufan02]

Eastide, I was not saying that Chane is similar to Nate Miles, just that no matter what verbals this early (Considering the all the unknown things that could happen, Mick gets fired, UC gets the #1 PF prospect in 2010, whatever) tend to take twists and turns. Chane probably will keep with Cincinnati, but usually there is some drama.

I hope he does to UC and has a great career, just not at Xavier's expense. Congrats.

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Ht: 6-2 Wt: 180
Position: PG, SG
Year: Class of 2011
AAU Team: Indiana Elite/Team Indiana
High School: Muncie Central HS (Muncie, IN)


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[wkrq59]

Cronin will be at UC for at least two more years and maybe three because of the dire financial situation athletically at UC. That's why he's not getting the axe this year after that disasterous losing streak at the end last February.
As far as the early commit is concerned, I'd like to see a rule stating no player can publicly commit to sign an LOI at any college until he has completed the first semester of his junior year.
That said, I would also like to see the only and early signing date moved up to May 1 and end May 31 and eliminate the early signing period in November.
That would drastically reduce the recruiting costs and cut down on the bullsh!t of a coach having to recruit kids in the 7th and 8th grades. It would also prevent a lot of the cheating that continues to go unpunished, especially among the Big 6 conference schools..See IU and Connecticut.
In addition, I would like to see ALL contact with prospective student athletes banned until the second semester of their junior year. Let coaches evaluate but make no contact during the first semester of the junior year.
And I would still like to see severe limitations placed on the AAU spring and summer leagues, if not get rid of them altogether. Replace 'em with summer skills camps and severely restrict those.
I know this is really a pipe dream but I would like to see the NCAA rules manual rewritten, simplified and the rules universally enforced without prejudice or bias.
Think of it. Coaches would be forced to spend a greater part of the off-season and summer at home or on vacation with their families, thus reducing stress and the need to cheat as well as saving programs a ton of money.
But by the same token, I'd like to see most restrictions on off-season coaching reduced if not eliminated. Keep the players in school for much of the summer as Xavier already does, let the recruits as well as veterans take classes during that time and let the coaches supervise workouts in the gym for all but say the month of August, when the players have to return home for a vacation period.
Something is going to have to be done to reduce the cost of athletic programs overall and I think this is the best way to do it. The AAU (read shoe and apparel companies would bitch but so what. It's time for Sonny Vacaro to retire, anyway.:D