College Football Saturday

[Fred Garvin]

Woo hoo! Gonna get me a Michigan scalp. Never beat'em 5 in a row. Gonna show Michigan why Terrell went to a champion.

OSU's former defensive coordinator will beat Dependz And Friends in the 3:30 game. This'll show Snipe to not root for JoPa when they play the mighty Bucks.

But is OSU really a 20 point favorite? If Tressel gets up 14 he'll try to run out the clock. Hell, he was beginning to do that in the PSU game(the drive where Pryor fumbled).

At 7:00 is BKelly and the boys. Snipe told me he wanted to go to the game but that he was afraid it'd be too cold. This Freezer(not Kenny)Bowl veteran is here to tell ya Snipe is soft.

[Cheesehead]

What will the Bearcats do if Kelly bails for UT?

[Fred Garvin]

What will the Bearcats do if Kelly bails for UT?

I think Leach from Tex Tech will head there. The SEC would love to have another Paul Westhead of football.

[Cheesehead]

Hmm..interesting. I guess I could see that. I just thought it would be funny if UC lost another football coach.

[Fred Garvin]

Hmm..interesting. I guess I could see that. I just thought it would be funny if UC lost another football coach.

I ain't gonna lie, it'd have to be devastating. Especially two coaches in a row.

Tell me, I know you are a Marquette guy but do you follow Wisconsin football?
I would have to think the natives are growing restless with Alvarez's successor.

[GuyFawkes38]

I think Leach from Tex Tech will head there. The SEC would love to have another Paul Westhead of football.

All of the rumors suggest that Leach will not even be considered at Tennessee and that Kelly is the first choice.

If Kelly is offered the Tennessee job, he will take it. There is no question in my mind (and I have some connections on this).

[Cheesehead]

I heard Kelly was the first choice for UT but let me make this clear, I have no connections whatsoever. I do follow UW football to a degree. Growing up a huge Marquette fan I hated them in basketball (think Crosstown Shootout) but I was always ambivalent about them in regard to football and now that I have been in Ohio longer than my days in Wisonconsin, I am now an OSU Football only fan. I watched the UW game a few weeks ago whre their head coach essentially lost the game for them w/ his stupid decisions.

[Fred Garvin]

Never did I say that Leach was the first choice. But you, Mr.Connections, seem assured Kelly would take the job if offered.

I think Kelly is shrewd. I think UC making a BCS game is everything. He has to realize that is an easier path. And of course he would have BCS appearances written into his contract. He'd be the Calipari of college football.

[Fred Garvin]

I heard Kelly was the first choice for UT but let me make this clear, I have no connections whatsoever. I do follow UW football to a degree. Growing up a huge Marquette fan I hated them in basketball (think Crosstown Shootout) but I was always ambivalent about them in regard to football and now that I have been in Ohio longer than my days in Wisonconsin, I am now an OSU Football only fan. I watched the UW game a few weeks ago whre their head coach essentially lost the game for them w/ his stupid decisions.

Yeah, that was bad. Being a savvy game coach and a bad recruiter is one thing I can understand; some guy's are more charismatic than others. But that guy's game management makes you wonder what he was paying attention to all those years as an assistant.

Rev, is Surf from Columbus originally? I can't remember.

[GuyFawkes38]

Never did I say that Leach was the first choice. But you, Mr.Connections, seem assured Kelly would take the job if offered.

I think Kelly is shrewd. I think UC making a BCS game is everything. He has to realize that is an easier path. And of course he would have BCS appearances written into his contract. He'd be the Calipari of college football.

yeah, sure. Rich Rodriguez certainly loved the idea of being the "Calipari" of the college football world so much that he decided to leave West Virginia to take the challenging Michigan job.

Tennessee, like Michigan, will offer the opportunity for more money and the chance of attaining real prestige and greatness. Tennessee also offers Kelly the opportunity to win a national championship. You can't really get that at UC.

[Cheesehead]

Negative. He's from Chicago but his sister lived in Columbus for a few years. He's now an OSU football fan but I think he secretly roots for UC football as his neighbor is a big UC fan and they watch games together. How gay.

[jdm2000]

yeah, sure. Rich Rodriguez certainly loved the idea of being the "Calipari" of the college football world so much that he decided to leave West Virginia to take the challenging Michigan job.

Tennessee, like Michigan, will offer the opportunity for more money and the chance of attaining real prestige and greatness. Tennessee also offers Kelly the opportunity to win a national championship. You can't really get that at UC.


Call me crazy, but I don't think the Tennessee job is that great. The program has one 1 national title since 1951 (the 1998 team). They play in a conference with Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, and LSU, to name but five. They do have top-notch facilities and support, but they also have crazy-rabid fans that have led to a coach with 17 great years and an NC being run out of town.

In fact, I'll say this: WVU the last couple of years (and Miami before them) show you can get the opportunity to play for the NC out of the Big East. (WVU was in line to go last year before crapping the bed against Pitt.) Now, can Kelly do that at UC? That's a good question. But I don't think it's nearly as far from the realm of possibility as you do.

I think there's a reason lots of people are saying Clemson is the best job available--SEC type school with ACC level pressure. If I was Kelly, I would be thinking seriously about that.

[Strange Brew]

What will the Bearcats do if Kelly bails for UT?

Hopefully he bails for ND :D

[GoMuskies]

I think I saw Snipe rushing the field.

[AdamtheFlyer]

Rushing the field, throwing oranges during a live play in the process, and you didn't even clinch the Big East title tonight.

That's why I never venture into Clifton.

[Strange Brew]

Rushing the field, throwing oranges during a live play in the process, and you didn't even clinch the Big East title tonight.

That's why I never venture into Clifton.

UC = Classless. PERIOD.

[Cheesehead]

Still waiting for that genius Charlie Weis to show himself. Same winning as Davies and Winningham. How much longer does this guy get?

[GuyFawkes38]

Call me crazy, but I don't think the Tennessee job is that great. The program has one 1 national title since 1951 (the 1998 team). They play in a conference with Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, and LSU, to name but five. They do have top-notch facilities and support, but they also have crazy-rabid fans that have led to a coach with 17 great years and an NC being run out of town.

In fact, I'll say this: WVU the last couple of years (and Miami before them) show you can get the opportunity to play for the NC out of the Big East. (WVU was in line to go last year before crapping the bed against Pitt.) Now, can Kelly do that at UC? That's a good question. But I don't think it's nearly as far from the realm of possibility as you do.

I think there's a reason lots of people are saying Clemson is the best job available--SEC type school with ACC level pressure. If I was Kelly, I would be thinking seriously about that.

I don't know if I buy this (Paul Daughtery(sp) made the same argument on his blog).

Lets not kid ourselves with this, "you can win a championship in the Big East because WV almost did it once" talk.

There are only 15 schools in the nation where you can win a National Championship. None of those teams lie in the Big East. The Tennessee job is one of those 15. So it's a valuable job. (yeah, college football is insanely hierarchical).

[GoMuskies]

Louisville and WV each were essentially one quarter away from the BCS title game. Yes, a Big East team can definitely win a national title.

[AdamtheFlyer]

Florida
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Miami
Florida State
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
USC
Notre Dame

That is your college football elite class. You can pretty much bank on 3/4 of these programs being in the top 15 every year, with 1/4 in a down rebuilding year. One could argue Notre Dame, but I say yes, largely because of an advantageous scheduling possibility. They really only have to beat Michigan and USC and run the table against a usually mediocre schedule after that, and they'll go. They're not anywhere close now, but as long as major QB prospects look to South Bend, they're a sleeping giant. College football, for all the "SEC SPEED" talk, is a quarterbacks game.

I think programs like Oregon and VT fall in BCS purgatory. Not elite, but generally close.

Oklahoma State will get up there if T. Boone Pickens has anything to say about it. Pitt, WVU, Louisville, Washington, and UCLA all are fully capable of getting to that national title level because of where they sit in relation to recruiting hotbeds. UC can get to this level in time, but they have to start getting more than OSU, Michigan, and PSU's leftovers in Ohio. Devier Posey and Michael Shaw are prime example. Imagine what they would have brought to Nippert. They'd both be starting and excelling as freshmen. Instead they're waiting a year or two to start at OSU and Michigan.

[Masterofreality]

Still waiting for that genius Charlie Weis to show himself. Same winning as Davies and Winningham. How much longer does this guy get?

Cheese,

Fat Charlie was granted a 10, that's right, ten year contract extension after Brady Quinn's senior year- the Brady Quinn who was recruited by....Ty Willingham. ND is stuck with Arrogant Fat Ass for another 8 years, unless they pay him a huge buyout which they do not have the money to do.

The best thing they could hope for is that Weis quits and goes back to the NFL. He won't, however, because he'd leave a ton of caish on the table.

BTW, how do all of those #1 recruiting classes look now? As has been said, take recruiting service ratings with a large grain of salt- both football and basketball.

[GuyFawkes38]

Florida
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Miami
Florida State
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
USC
Notre Dame

That is your college football elite class. You can pretty much bank on 3/4 of these programs being in the top 15 every year, with 1/4 in a down rebuilding year. One could argue Notre Dame, but I say yes, largely because of an advantageous scheduling possibility. They really only have to beat Michigan and USC and run the table against a usually mediocre schedule after that, and they'll go. They're not anywhere close now, but as long as major QB prospects look to South Bend, they're a sleeping giant. College football, for all the "SEC SPEED" talk, is a quarterbacks game.

I think programs like Oregon and VT fall in BCS purgatory. Not elite, but generally close.

Oklahoma State will get up there if T. Boone Pickens has anything to say about it. Pitt, WVU, Louisville, Washington, and UCLA all are fully capable of getting to that national title level because of where they sit in relation to recruiting hotbeds. UC can get to this level in time, but they have to start getting more than OSU, Michigan, and PSU's leftovers in Ohio. Devier Posey and Michael Shaw are prime example. Imagine what they would have brought to Nippert. They'd both be starting and excelling as freshmen. Instead they're waiting a year or two to start at OSU and Michigan.

That list looks right to me. I'm not sure if UC will ever be able to get on that list. In College Football there is a rigid heirarchy that dictates everything (thank god college basketball is different).

If Brian Kelly dreams of winning a championship, I think he's off to Tennessee where that dream is feasible.

[Fred Garvin]

There was a time when Don James and the Washington Huskies had it rolling. A national title and four rose bowl wins. Of course he exited ignominiously.
Remember Steve Emtman?

[GuyFawkes38]

There was a time when Don James and the Washington Huskies had it rolling. A national title and four rose bowl wins. Of course he exited ignominiously.
Remember Steve Emtman?

True. Colorado also won a championship in 1990. And BYU won one in the 1980's. So there are exceptions.