View Full Version : Cashmere Wright Tears ACL
According to lance's blog, he tore an ACL yesterday in practice and will miss the season.
What a tough break for the kid. Good luck to him rehabbing and getting back soon.
XU05and07
10-23-2008, 09:56 AM
That team cannot catch a break...hope for a full recovery
Cincy Muskie
10-23-2008, 10:07 AM
That is bad news for UC. Wright is their only pure point on the roster. Vaughn would be better served to be off the ball. Maybe Dixon at the '1'? Who knows but I hope the kid has a full recovery as well.
Muskie
10-23-2008, 10:18 AM
Will "Wool Jennings" or "Cotton Jones" be replacing him?
drudy23
10-23-2008, 10:48 AM
Sucks for them.
DC Muskie
10-23-2008, 10:57 AM
Tough break, er, tear. Hope the kid recovers quickly.
XU05and07
10-23-2008, 11:20 AM
Whenever he has the surgery to repair it...don't have the surgery wherever Tom Brady had his...or at the Cleveland Browns facilities. You'll get an infection
MADXSTER
10-23-2008, 11:53 AM
That's a damn shame. He was going to be a significant cog in their play this year.
jdm2000
10-23-2008, 12:15 PM
That's a tough break. By all accounts he is pretty talented. Let's hope he has a full and speedy recovery.
Ledgewood
10-23-2008, 12:27 PM
this is an injury i dont wish on anyone...except greg oden.
xufan02
10-23-2008, 01:23 PM
Tough break for UC. Hopefully he recovers and has 4 good years at UC, just not against us. On a non related UC issue, John Reik passed his SAT yesterday and and is likely to suit up for UC in the second semester.
Juice
10-23-2008, 01:42 PM
Good for Reik. Why wouldn't they just redshirt Reik?
Is there a thought that he is going to leave after this year anyway?
If I were Mick, I would let the kid practice but redshirt him.
Also, the Cashmere loss kills UC. I thought that with him and Williams this year that they would have a damn good chance to beat us this year. I dont mean that they are a better team but with how this game is so damn close every year and the fact that it is being played at UC.
bearcat65
10-23-2008, 01:56 PM
It's going to hurt no doubt but Vaughn will handle point and probably split time with either Dixon or Davis. At least it happened early so roles can be shifted and adjusted to. According to Cronin, Riek will be here at least 2 years. Given UC's track record of injury I think it would be a good idea to get him on the floor ASAP. In addition to Wright UC has also lost Kenny Belton for the year. He wasn't expected to see much time but he did give UC a degree of depth on the front line.
Fred Garvin
10-23-2008, 02:00 PM
That's too bad. I just feel for the kids that go to UC. Especially the ones that came in as frosh and will graduate without seeing the Cats in an NCAA tourney game. That damn Gerry McNamara.
Vaughn would have been great this year with a true PG to help him out.
I thought Reik was also injured right now. That guy will only stay long enough to get drafted. If he is any good early, he will be gone. If his is a work in progress, he will be at UC longer.
bearcat65
10-23-2008, 03:44 PM
Vaughn was very good last year even though he was the only consistent scoring threat on the team and handled the point a good bit. I look for him to be better this year even without Wright simply because there will be more scoring options which should take some pressure off him. I think he, Dixon, and probably Davis can handle the point.
Riek had knee surgery some months ago and is currently rehabbing. Reportedly he should be good to go by late December. I figure he will be at UC the remainder of this season and next season at least. I don't see him coming off of surgery and the off time and having enough of an impact to be a 1st round pick.
If Vaughn plays as well or better than last year, do you see him leaving early for the NBA?
bearcat65
10-23-2008, 04:17 PM
If Vaughn plays as well or better than last year, do you see him leaving early for the NBA?
Seriously doubt it. At 6'0 he is kind of short for a pro shooting guard and I doubt he gets drafted as a point guard. Gates and Riek are the only ones I worry about leaving early but I don't see either leaving until after their sophomore season.
If he is First Team BE again, he would be stupid not to test the waters and go into the draft without an agent.
I don't see Gates as much of a pro prospect whatsoever. He is too one dimentional at this point. There are plenty of 6'9" guys that can dunk. He would be under sized somewhat at the PF in the NBA and does not posses a nice enough jumper at this point to play SF.
If Vaughn does leave, that will really put a big hurt on UC's chances to make the NCAA in 09-10. If UC fails to make the NCAA's at least once in the next two seasons, I think Mick's job will be in jeopardy.
wkrq59
10-23-2008, 04:23 PM
this is an injury i dont wish on anyone...except greg oden.
I hate to see any young man hit with an injury like that and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Damn shame for Mick, too. The detractors are already calling for his firing over there and the frigging season hasn't started yet. :D
bearcat65
10-23-2008, 04:53 PM
Just don't see Vaughn leaving early. His size is very similar to Steve Logan and even with Steve's stellar senior season he was not selected until the 2nd round.
Too early to tell with Gates. At 6'9" 255 lbs I don't see him as undersized. Hope you're right, I'd love to see him around for 4 years.
muskienick
10-23-2008, 05:12 PM
If it were not for bad luck, Mick would have no luck at all!
I wish Wright a full recovery and believe that the new big guy, Riek, will do well for UC if he fully recovers from his injury.
Stonebreaker
10-23-2008, 05:48 PM
Ouch.
and Kenny Belton is out for some time as well. Not a good start for the season. Question becomes will Vaughn be the PG. I would think yes, but perhaps Davis or someone else can step into that role, which I highly doubt would be as effective.
Not good for UC.
If Crawford becomes eligible, we could probably let them borrow one of our guards for a season. It would be the Jesuit way (as long as they paid us.)
X-Fan
10-23-2008, 07:57 PM
Excuse me but WTF is this?!? This should go in some OT board. It's a tough break for the kid, but I certainly didn't come here to hear/talk about the team in Clifton.
That may sound cold, but it is what it is.
nuts4xu
10-23-2008, 09:46 PM
That's awful for UC. It is fortunate they have another PG, but it will hurt their depth big time. Another tough break for a program that has a slew of them lately.
Cheesehead
10-24-2008, 12:33 AM
OT please. This is the XU basketball thread.
GoMuskies
10-24-2008, 01:13 AM
UC is an opponent, so it's relevant.
A10fan
10-24-2008, 07:24 AM
Excuse me but WTF is this?!? This should go in some OT board. It's a tough break for the kid, but I certainly didn't come here to hear/talk about the team in Clifton.
That may sound cold, but it is what it is.
Didn't you read the thread title? What did you think it was about? If you don't want to read about an upcoming opponents injury then don't open the thread. May sound cold, but it is what it is.
Threads like this more properly belong in "Around the NCAA" but when a major story involves the starting PG of one of our biggest rivals, it's nice for it to get some play in this forum.
I started the thread in the other forum, then drudy posted the same story here, so I merged the threads and left it here.
I can move it back so the more sensitive among us are not bothered by its presence in the Xavier basketball forum, but I'd ask in the future that we keep the complaining about this kind of stuff to a minimum.
The Artist
10-24-2008, 10:24 AM
Thank goodness it's getting moved. I had to scroll down one extra click on my mouse to get to the other topics.
Vaughn may not leave for sure but he certainly would be smart to test the waters. Logan was never a two time First Team Big East by the way.
Gates has not played in any college games yet and was very one dimentional coming to UC (just ask Cronin). He would be nothing special to an NBA scout right now and will have to show a consistent jumper (he has no jumper now) to even think about leaving UC early.
Masterofreality
10-25-2008, 10:43 AM
Will "Wool Jennings" or "Cotton Jones" be replacing him?
Sick, but funny as hell.
Rep point given!!!
bearcat65
10-27-2008, 08:41 AM
Vaughn may not leave for sure but he certainly would be smart to test the waters. Logan was never a two time First Team Big East by the way.
Gates has not played in any college games yet and was very one dimentional coming to UC (just ask Cronin). He would be nothing special to an NBA scout right now and will have to show a consistent jumper (he has no jumper now) to even think about leaving UC early.
Logan was however a first team All American his senior year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Logan
Even with that accomplishment Logan wasn't selected until the 2nd round. That's why I don't think Vaughn is a risk to leave early. He and Logan are too similar physically and Vaughn isn't as good at the point as Logan was. He may be there by the time he graduates.
Gates size and athleticism is what stands out in every scouting report I've read on him. He has the potential to be one of the best players to play at UC. I look forward to see how well he utilizes his potential and how well he developes at UC.
Logan was almost a first round pick though (he was the first pick of the second round) and you are comparing him to a junior in college, so again, if Vaughn has as good or better year this year as last, he would be stupid not to at least test the waters. The NBA loves potential and I could see Vaughn being a middle to late round pick in the first round after this season.
Gates is raw. End of story.
Bearcat, I know you, being a UC fan, probably have a little more insight than most of us here when it comes to your guys, but if I could give you some friendly advice, don't argue with Kathy Bates, even if you know damn well you're right. LH is a strange creature who feeds on making irrational arguments. He would argue that his user name isn't _LH if you told him it was. Honestly not worth it.
bearcat65
10-27-2008, 11:03 AM
Bearcat, I know you, being a UC fan, probably have a little more insight than most of us here when it comes to your guys, but if I could give you some friendly advice, don't argue with Kathy Bates, even if you know damn well you're right. LH is a strange creature who feeds on making irrational arguments. He would argue that his user name isn't _LH if you told him it was. Honestly not worth it.
Sounds like good advice. Thanks
Eastside_J
10-27-2008, 12:44 PM
If he is First Team BE again, he would be stupid not to test the waters and go into the draft without an agent.
I don't see Gates as much of a pro prospect whatsoever. He is too one dimentional at this point. There are plenty of 6'9" guys that can dunk. He would be under sized somewhat at the PF in the NBA and does not posses a nice enough jumper at this point to play SF.
If Vaughn does leave, that will really put a big hurt on UC's chances to make the NCAA in 09-10. If UC fails to make the NCAA's at least once in the next two seasons, I think Mick's job will be in jeopardy.
"I don't see Gates as much of a pro prospect whatsoever. He is too one dimentional at this point."
I am going to have fun with this one in the near future :D
"I don't see Gates as much of a pro prospect whatsoever. He is too one dimentional at this point."
I am going to have fun with this one in the near future :D
Welcome back J.
"I don't see Gates as much of a pro prospect whatsoever. He is too one dimentional at this point."
I am going to have fun with this one in the near future :D
Just like we are having fun with West not being a good pro.
xu95
PMI,
How does he "know" he is right. He is offering up an opinion, as am I.
Right now, Gates has played in zero college games and was not going to go straight to the NBA out of high school if the rule did not exist to make him go to college. He may turn out to be a pro prospect, but right now, he is far from it. Even Cronin has said he needs a lot of work.
I never said he knows he's right. I only said that even if he knows he is right not to argue. Basically I was saying that in no way is it worth arguing with an irrational person, Kathy.
And that's the last time I respond to this. I'm standing on quick sand and I'm going to move before I start sinking down to your level.
BTW, for what it's worth, I have no basis for opinion whatsoever on either Vaughn or Gates, so I'm not on either side of the fence on these ones, but that wasn't the topic of this thread anyway so I shouldn't be talking about it.
nuts4xu
10-27-2008, 09:35 PM
_LH is a POS.
Eastside_J
10-27-2008, 11:36 PM
Just like we are having fun with West not being a good pro.
xu95
HA!
Hey I have admitted on several occassions that the guy has completely surpassed my expectations. And yet all my original criticisms are still absolutely true. However he has managed to greatly minimize a couple of them.
You have to find it pretty remarkable that I had been talking for a few years about his help side d being poor and his rebounding being, uh, opportunistic and then this article comes out (I swear I didn't write it).
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-NewOrleansPreview0708
He is all those things and yet a much more productive pro than I ever thought he would be. My hats off to D West.
PMI,
I am as reasonable as anyone on this board and my opinion has as little or as much merit as anyone else's. You have a hard on for me and you should just admit it and move on.
Cronin is on record as calling Gates a "project" in the post. He is UC's coach, so I think he would know.
The Artist
10-28-2008, 09:01 AM
We've covered this.
We've covered this.
Indeed we have.
XU 87
10-28-2008, 09:06 AM
HA!
Hey I have admitted on several occassions that the guy has completely surpassed my expectations. And yet all my original criticisms are still absolutely true. However he has managed to greatly minimize a couple of them.
Another classic from Eastside J. West may be all-pro, but he still has numerous deficiencies. So J was right about West all this time. Even though West is all-pro.
Would this be a bad time to ask you if you still think Drew Lavender was not a point guard but was really a shooting guard?
Cincy Muskie
10-28-2008, 09:09 AM
Jay has a little 'p' envy over our program obviously. Best of luck to the kittens this year. Another built in excuse for little Mick not to have any success because his freshman and unproven point guard had an unfortunate injury.
Jumpy
10-28-2008, 10:19 AM
PMI,
I am as reasonable as anyone on this board and my opinion has as little or as much merit as anyone else's. You have a hard on for me and you should just admit it and move on.
Cronin is on record as calling Gates a "project" in the post. He is UC's coach, so I think he would know.
http://www.xavierhoops.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5839
Yes, Jumpy there are many who are obsessed with me on this board. It is quite sad really.
drudy23
10-28-2008, 10:39 AM
http://www.xavierhoops.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5839
I just read the thread and LH definitely implied that UD was a non-conference rival by the way he wrote the sentence...without a doubt.
Smails
10-28-2008, 10:41 AM
Somebody call homeland security....we've got a hijacking situation here
drudy23
10-28-2008, 10:45 AM
Somebody call homeland security....we've got a hijacking situation here
Stay on topic.
UC had the potential to win 20 plus games this year with a pretty weak OOC. They will struggle a bit without Wright but not too much until the BE portion of their season begins.
chico
10-28-2008, 10:55 AM
It should be a good game with UC this year, because, as we all know, outside of Louisville and UD, XU is UC's biggest non conference rival.
Jumpy
10-28-2008, 10:56 AM
Yes, Jumpy there are many who are obsessed with me on this board. It is quite sad really.
I really do think it would be annoying going through life thinking that I had it all figured out, that I was one step ahead of everyone and knew everything, yet all that I touched turned to shit and I could never figure out why.
It is usually a good game because UC is XU's biggest rival.
Don't be so hard on yourself Jumpy. Things will turn around for you. Have you considered barber school?
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